A bit hot for sure but it's only pushing 5/8 ounces of shot. They were pretty fast I'll bet.





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That was back when the shell companies actually told the public what powder they used. Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Here is Red Dot in the heavier, 2 3/4 inch, 28-gauge load --

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Even as marked up as it is, this very early box of 2 3/4 inch, 28-gauge, Skeet Loads went for $470!! Well past my comfort zone.

Similar box from Remington on GI for $50 --

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Has anyone ever dismantled a 28 gauge Red Dot load to see if there is actually Red Dot powder in there? Second question, has anyone seen the box that Winchester 16 gauge compression formed, eight segment crimp shells came in? It is certainly a shell identical to a AA shell, but I don't know about the nomenclature. I still have a stash of the empties, but no box. I guess Dave answered my question on Craig's thread. Is there a AA box of 16s out there somewhere?

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The UPLAND shells as introduced in 1971 had a 6-point sealed crimp, the same as the compression formed Super-X and Super-Speed.

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In the 1983 Winchester ammunition catalog they state that the UPLAND shells now have the 8-point AA style crimp for easier reloading. So, they would be in this style box --

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The Xpert Box --

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and of course the 16-gauge Dove & Quails for a few years --

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