Thanks John. Tobie was half English Blockhead and my daughter's black Lab is full English. Both dogs are/were very mild mannered and biddable from puppy stage. My other daughter's yellow Lab has some other lineage... don't know what but he is a "nut case" and he never stops playing, swimming and begging to be played with and never was very biddable. He has always required a lot of patience and constant attention. I would have sold him or given him away long ago.... but he's not my dog.

Yep. My duaghter's lab ( who has at least one American FC in her 2nd generation papers is also a dingbat. Altho she was never been trained for field work, I think it would have been a real challenge

Add husky into the mix with a yellow lab and you can get a real nut case. She has grown on me though. Some will have seen this shot of CHARLIE. It does capture "nut case" fairly well.
Cheers,
Jack
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=1223

Here's "Tar" with one of her prizes: