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Dave Noreen 04-08-2020 10:30 AM

Wow!! Can we say "Closet Queen!!"

Ted Hicks 04-08-2020 11:21 AM

Nice gun, great birthday present! Happy Birthday!

Milton C Starr 04-08-2020 11:40 AM

I was in a shop a few weeks back and seen this Baker Batavia hammer gun .
The outward appearance looks rough but the gun still locked up like new and the bores had minimal pitting . I didnt get it but I always like seeing the Baker guns . It was pretty small I thought it was a 16 ga .

Harold Lee Pickens 04-08-2020 02:17 PM

Pete, go to Alliants reloading site and check out the 3/4 and 7/8 oz loads using 14.5-15.5 grains of 20/28 using claybuster wads. 1200 fps and pressures in the 7000's. Sweet shooting 20 ga load in a AA.
I wouldn't worry about 2 1/2" shells in that gun either.

Dave Noreen 04-08-2020 02:21 PM

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That is a Model 1897 Hammer Gun, a real Baker, with the transverse "drawblock" on the barrel lug, not the low priced line "Batavia."

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Long ago at one of the Vintage Cups at Sandanona, Ivory Beads had a screaming high condition 16-gauge Model 1897 I've always kicked myself for not buying.

Mark Ray 04-08-2020 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 299135)
What a great gun in the condition category. There was another 20 in that sort of condition in GB a few months ago.
When you find them like that, you buy them. As long as the price isn’t ridiculous.

I bought that gun Brian, it is really nice, but not as nice as this gun.

Pete Lester 04-08-2020 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens (Post 299237)
Pete, go to Alliants reloading site and check out the 3/4 and 7/8 oz loads using 14.5-15.5 grains of 20/28 using claybuster wads. 1200 fps and pressures in the 7000's. Sweet shooting 20 ga load in a AA.
I wouldn't worry about 2 1/2" shells in that gun either.

I literally just got back from meeting Scott and pattern testing the Baker 20. Scott measured the chokes and they are R .011 and L .017 with a long taper. I shot a 3/4 ounce load of lead #6 pushed along with Green Dot. Instead of opening a new bag of shot I used some copper coated 6 that I had on hand. The results in a 30" circle at 40 yards was R 53% and L 61%. So the gun seems to be a 28" IC/M by pattern. In the future I may try a 7/8 ounce using Unique.

allen newell 04-08-2020 04:22 PM

Pete, what's not to like about that Baker and 20 ga to! My now deceased cousin inherited his dad's Parker 12 ga and his Baker 16 ga. My cousin preferred hunting upland birds with the Baker. His son now has it and would not trade or sell it for the world. Good sturdy sxs and well made. congrats

Harold Lee Pickens 04-08-2020 08:32 PM

Hope I get to see that gun at Hausmans, good Lord willing.

Brian Dudley 04-08-2020 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Ray (Post 299239)
I bought that gun Brian, it is really nice, but not as nice as this gun.


I remember that one being nicer. But it was a while ago.


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