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Chuck Bishop 02-02-2020 06:24 PM

When I had a shell jam in the collet and it wouldn't release, it was due to a rusted primer not ejecting or the primer drop tube going down too far in the fork under the base.

I had 3 MEC's, 1 hydrolic, 1 9000, and 1 grabber. They took up too much bench room. Lucked into a Spolar Gold hydrolic with 12, 20, and 28 gauge die sets at a local auction. Takes about 15 minutes to change dies. Never any adjustments needed after changing dies. Spolars have many similarties to PW progressive machines.

Rich Anderson 02-04-2020 05:33 PM

I managed to get the hull out by moving the ring back with a screwdriver and pliers to get the hull out. A major use of tools for me:rotf: I'm just getting back from quail hunting in Georgia and brought back a big case of gout that finally is on the mend so I'll mess with this again shortly.

John Dallas 02-04-2020 06:00 PM

Too much red wine?

Rich Anderson 02-04-2020 06:04 PM

To much meat and bourbon I think. Drove back from Georgia with it and could barely walk. Not a fun drive but a great quail hunt:rotf:

Dennis E. Jones 02-10-2020 12:27 PM

I went to Ponsness Warren presses thirty years ago and never looked back. I gave away a couple of my MEC presses and felt bad for the people that I gave them to. The last three MEC presses burnt up in a fire in my shop in 2015. The insurance didn't pay me much for them but then again I didn't think they were worth much.

Of course your mileage may vary.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Mike Koneski 02-12-2020 09:28 AM

Geez, what's with all the hate for MEC 600s?? I run them, 1 each for 2 7/8" 10g, 2 1/2" 12g, 2 1/2" 16g, 2 1/2" 20g, 2 1/2" 28g, 3" .410. Even use a Lee Load-All for 12g black powder. Also have a MEC Sizemaster and a MEC Hull Conditioner. All run like a raped ape. I have a Spolar Gold with heads for 12, 20, 28 and .410 if I need high volume production. None of the MEC were purchased new. I won't get in to the metallic presses. :shock: If you keep the MEC presses clean and all the linkages lubed there's no problems. Biggest issue I have is the wad guide fingers breaking. Cheap and simple fix though.

CraigThompson 02-12-2020 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 293228)
Geez, what's with all the hate for MEC 600s?? I run them, 1 each for 2 7/8" 10g, 2 1/2" 12g, 2 1/2" 16g, 2 1/2" 20g, 2 1/2" 28g, 3" .410. Even use a Lee Load-All for 12g black powder. Also have a MEC Sizemaster and a MEC Hull Conditioner. All run like a raped ape. I have a Spolar Gold with heads for 12, 20, 28 and .410 if I need high volume production. None of the MEC were purchased new. I won't get in to the metallic presses. :shock: If you keep the MEC presses clean and all the linkages lubed there's no problems. Biggest issue I have is the wad guide fingers breaking. Cheap and simple fix though.

Nothing wrong with the single stage MEC’s and I actually prefer them for bismuth , buckshot and slugs . I like the MEC single stage for those applications better than the PW 375C . I’ve never fooled with the Spolar machines but I’m sure they’re nice I’ve just got an almost forty year affection for PW 800’s . Geeezzzz as to metallic presses I’m using the same PW Metallic II I got almost forty years ago although I’ve also got a big CH-4D for the 505 Gibbs a Lee 1000 for the 357 Magnum a pair of Lee Loadmasters for 10mm and 45 ACP and finally an a RCBS 4x4 I’ll eventually set up exclusively for the 30 Carbine round . The Lee 1000 and RCBS 4x4 were purchased used as I wouldn’t have paid new for the RCBS as an exclusive cartridge unit . I did most certainly however got the pair of Loadmasters to set up for a single cartridge exclusively . As I’m sure you surmise by now I DO NOT like changing over progressive presses from one thing to another .

Mike Koneski 02-13-2020 11:31 AM

PW and Spolar progressives are awesome machines. When I would load shells for practice and tourneys for 12g, I'd have my son or wife set the wad on the wad guide and we could crank out 1000 shells an hour when we were in sync. The MECs are great but I only do maybe 4 boxes at a time so the high volume doesn't matter especially when all of my MEC presses combined cost about as much as the current cost of 1 Spolar toolhead gauge change!!

That all said we do have a client here who has a PW for sale. I'll get more info from him. Think he said around $300.

Mike Koneski 02-13-2020 07:55 PM

12g PW Size O Matic 800-B. Message me for price if interested. I will get a pic up here sometime today.

Pete Lester 02-14-2020 03:30 PM

9000+ shells. That's how many you can load on a single stage MEC in a year if you spend + or - 12 minutes a day and load a box of shells. I am going to venture that is more than the average person shoots.


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