i would like to have had one of those harrington and richerson single barrel 10 ga s made into 8 ga...i looked at gunbroker but could not find that 8 ga double barrell but did find jeramigh johnsons big 8 ga it weighs 14 lb 8 ounces....charlie

To each his own. Never make fun of another man's dog (or gun). I've only shot at one turkey with mine. Dead as a door-nail at forty-five yards. Made by Zabala Hermanos S.A. They have been making guns since 1932.

They weighed theirs on a deer hanging scale. It weighs 10 pounds 12 ounces. Not as heavy as my Remington SP10.

don't get me wrong Jerry

the Spanish have made -and currently make - some great guns

but there were a few makers back then who still needed to learn about metallurgy

No offense taken. Zabala has made over 1,000,000 guns. My gun has great wood, hand checkered, and built like a tank. It is just a novelty to me. I saw it. Liked it because it was a 10. Made a good trade for it. The 32" barrels in 10 gauge are fun to hold up on a slow coming in turkey.

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Didnt Zabala make the Richland arms 711 10 gauges ? I have always thought of buying one of those or a similar one but I really dislike beavertails . And I have been told you cant simply reshape a beavertail to a splinter because of the forend metal .

I dont have anything against the Spanish 10 gauges there just doesnt seem to be alot of solid information about the different brands mostly opinions .
The 711 Richland is the one I see come up most often .

Charlie someone was selling a set of Shattuck 8 gauge singles , 2 of them awhile back for 1500$ I think it was . I wouldnt mind getting a Davenport someday .

If you pay 1700.00 for that gun you will pay 1100.00 to much.

Oh Im not planning on buying it just thought the weight was odd for a 10 gauge .

I had a budget of 6000$ but I spent 3500 on my rifle and the rest on other hobbies . So im not in the market for awhile , Maybe something interesting will show up later this year . I think this year I will streamline my focus on what I want as my first Parker.

To answer a couple of questions. Richland was made by Zabala. A couple of years ago I was going to sell mine for $700 because it has walnut wood and is more embellished, but decided to keep it. If you see one at a gun show, offer $500 and if you get it for $600 you have a solid gun. It is as I said a novelty, as most gun shops want to be rid of them. Very little demand now since the 3.5" 12 gauge, and especially only two shots when you can have five for turkey and deer with an auto or pump.

I would like to hear more about the ten to eight H&R conversion. I have a minty H&R ten that opens up by itself whenever a 3 1/2" ten is fired in it. I don't think it is a good platform for eights. Where can I read about this conversion? My Davenport eight is one fine gun, better than the H&R, and it will get more use when I reactivate my eight gauge loading equipment after my recent move.