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Wow that is an incredible job very well done:bowdown:
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Beautiful contrast Breck.
Remington called that pattern on 1894 C grades "Etoile 3. B.P."; Ithaca called it "American Flag" The lopin lower left would be "American Flag"; lower 3rd is "Washington" http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../412652502.jpg Remington also had an "Etoile 3. B.P." with very fine "stars" within the scrolls http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../403867979.jpg This is a Parker with "Washington" and the "stars" within the scrolls are mostly tiny rectangles http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../317324708.jpg |
Here's another Damascus-Twist pattern with an end-on ribband
http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../282227713.jpg Steve Culver thinks the lopin was something like this, and that the "mushrooming" was from external hammering http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../405710290.jpg |
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Steve Culver’s interpretation makes a lot of sense. Thanks for making that clear.
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I would call:
1. The Rem is American Flag Bunting , a Damascus pattern. 2. The Parker G is Crolle, a Damascus pattern. 3. The Lefever is Twist, not Damascus at all. Nicely done refinishes. I appreciate composite barrels and regularly use such guns for target and hunting. Photos to follow of a Mod 1883 Colt shot gun with nice Damascus when the stock gets its final Brian Board mastery. |
Breck: I dug out my image from Charles Semmer's book of the labeled Remington damascus sample rod and you were correct; Remington called the pattern "Etoile (Star) 3. B.P.". Both it and "Washington N 3. B.P." were offered on the 1894 C grade. I corrected my post.
5 Washington and Etoile variants in the Joseph Juleinond de Nessonvaux sample box http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../411660177.jpg As said, Ithaca called the pattern "American Flag" http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../409894739.jpg Baker called this pattern "Best London Damascus Twist" http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../271046270.jpg and some Ferlach and Liege makers called it "London". The lower sample is acid etched http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../325223725.jpg |
And just to make it more confusing, Bruce is correct that neither "Twist" nor "Damascus Twist" are twisted before being helically hammer welded on a mandrel, ie. not a "crolle" (curled) pattern
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...LxMESM3W0/edit |
There are many types of twist, ranging from stub twist, best twist and London twist. The plainest twist I have seen was the short lived Parker in house made twist. The high grades of twist are highly attractive in my opinion.
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Found my images of Damascus Twist Parkers
1888 12g No. 0 toplever hammer gun with Damascus-Twist refinished by Dale Edmonds. Courtesy of David Purnell. http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../305238492.jpg No. 1 toplever hammergun refinished by Brad Bachelder http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../386972891.jpg |
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