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Robert Henley 07-16-2019 09:18 PM

I wasn't planning on shooting it. However, if I did shoot it what kind of shell would I use? Or is it just not advisable to shoot it because of the type steel in the barrel? Just curious.

Thanks

Dean Romig 07-16-2019 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Henley (Post 277601)
OK, thank-you. What does Grade 0 equate to (if that makes sense)? In other words, does the numeric grade equate to an alpha grade? The 39th Blue Book seems to indicate it does but then it just lists alpha grades from what I can tell. I guess the barrels were cut down to 26" given the above noted reference to 30 in.

Beginning at the bottom of the hammerless Parkers, there is the Trojan, then Grade-0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.

Or Grade-0 equates to the VH, 1 to the PH, then GH, DH, CH, BH, AH, AAH, A1-S and finally the three Invincibles.





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Robert Henley 07-16-2019 09:54 PM

From a quick look around, I suppose perusing the Parker Hammer Gun forum will give me some more insight into my hammer gun:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Steve Huffman 07-16-2019 10:40 PM

What is it your looking for ? As far as shooting and proper shells Rst makes low pressure shells but guns need to be checked out to see if they are safe .

Robert Henley 07-17-2019 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Huffman (Post 277615)
What is it your looking for ?

The grade and other characteristics related to valuation.


I'll study other posts in the hammer section which appear to have some good information. I noticed one recent post had what looks like a similar gun, also identified as Grade-0.


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Garry L Gordon 07-17-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Henley (Post 277625)
The grade and other characteristics related to valuation.

Robert, You have the "other characteristics" in your possession -- the gun. What the barrels look like inside (and out), whether or not those barrels have been cut, their wall thickness, etc. will all contribute to the value of your gun. If you have access to a good gunsmith who knows old double barreled guns and has the tools and knowledge to evaluate them for safety and originality, you can get more concrete estimations regarding the gun.

However, if you have better (and more) pictures of the gun, I never ceased to be amazed at what some of our members can deduce from photos.

Nota Bene: If indeed the barrels were 30 and are now 26 inches, that does not bode well for value.

Still, you have an example of one of the finest guns ever produced in America, and a piece of history also -- enjoy the gun and the search for more information about it. Consider getting a research letter for the gun. Those letters can help considerably in determining value in a gun because they give clues to its originality.

Robert Henley 07-17-2019 07:56 AM

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Still, you have an example of one of the finest guns ever produced in America, and a piece of history also -- enjoy the gun and the search for more information about it. Consider getting a research letter for the gun. Those letters can help considerably in determining value in a gun because they give clues to its originality.

It certainly has a solid and balanced feel that you don't often find today. I had another closer up picture I took which I've attached just fyi.

The barrels do not appear to have been cut down but they are 26" instead of 30".

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Dean Romig 07-17-2019 08:51 AM

Scott, your gun is a Grade-0

What criteria did you use to determine the barrels don’t appear to have been cut?





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Robert Henley 07-17-2019 09:35 AM

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Some more pictures with several focusing on the end of barrels.

Note it looks like the bead is missing.

Thanks,

Robert

Dean Romig 07-17-2019 09:48 AM

I don't see keels beneath either the top rib or the bottom rib so my best guess is that the barrels have likely been cut.

That's not the only criteria I would use but the other pictures are not clear enough to determine if there is a blank space past the rib matting at the muzzle.





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