Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums

Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums (https://parkerguns.org/forums/index.php)

- Shotgun Shell Reloading (https://parkerguns.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=21)

- - 32 ga ??? (https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27369)

Should I have maybe said the equal in popularity and use? That is kind of what I was getting at.

Jerry, do you know why the cartridge manufacturers referred to the .410 as 36ga? (a sample as shown in Dave's post)

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 274370)

:nono:

I believe .410 is also called 12mm, and once was called 36ga.
The 32ga is also called a 14mm

32ga guns are still made in Italy, and not so long ago, in Spain also

Edgar is on it, still called the 36 gauge across the pond!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 274434)

Jerry, do you know why the cartridge manufacturers referred to the .410 as 36ga? (a sample as shown in Dave's post)

Edgar,

This is only an educated guess but the base diameter of the cartridge/shell is 11.9 mm/.490, so they opted to call it in addition to a .410 a 12mm which is close to a 36 gauge (but should have at least called it a 40 gauge), ignoring that the bore size was actually 67 gauge. I guess 36 gauge sounded sexier than a 67 gauge and would result in more sales.

Type Shotgun, revolver, single-shot pistol
Place of origin England
Production history
Manufacturer Eley Brothers
Produced 1874 onwards
Specifications
Case type Rimmed, straight, (optional plastic)
Bullet diameter .410 in (10.4 mm) (slug)
Neck diameter .455 in (11.6 mm) (plastic)
Base diameter .470 in (11.9 mm)
Rim diameter .535 in (13.6 mm)
Rim thickness .060 in (1.5 mm)
Overall length 2″, 2 1/2″, 3″
Primer type Shotshell primer
Maximum pressure ) 18,130 psi

I thought the 410 was considered more as a caliber than a gauge.

For the 105 years they've been manufactured here in North America, our manufacturers have certainly played fast and loose with the terminology. They call it .410 gauge as often as they call it .410 bore. Remington ad circa 1930 --

Attachment 73191

In the early years the most often included 12 m/m and 36 gauge on their packaging --

Attachment 73192

Attachment 73193

Attachment 73194

Here at least Winchester just used .410 and (12 m/m) --

Attachment 73195

But here they used 410 GA --

Attachment 73196

in that 2 inch 410 shell it says no 1 chilled shot....what could you use this load on...could not be many shot in this load.....interesting load to me....charlie

Dave, I'd sure like to find a cupboard full of those Peters Squirrels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 274452)

I thought the 410 was considered more as a caliber than a gauge.

Yup, it's not a 410 bore (though 410 bore is closer) and it's not a 410 gauge either - technically, it's a .410 caliber shotshell/shotgun.

.

You could shoot em in a 28ga if you wanted. Might not be good for anything afterwards.