Hi guys! Maybe these will help for those folks looking for a more detailed view of those barrel flats and markings. I'm new to the forum and PGCA, and hope to post some better looking pics of #5045 in a new thread when I get the time. She's a bit of a 'plain jane,' but is in great shape for her age. Just a guess... but the stamped mark next to the "J.L." looks almost like a couple of crossed blacksmith nails. The barrels are engraved as 'Stub Twist.'

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I've searched TPS and can't find any reference to that stamp to the right of "J.L."
I don't think it is a "4" but rather crossed 'somethings' like spikes or....

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It lookslike a 4 made with a dull die.

Best, Austin

I see the broken horizontal "cap" on the "J" and the crudeness of the "T" so a dull or broken 4 is a possibility. Who was "JL" and what would the 4 be indicative of I wonder?

I like Cyril's idea of crossed broken horse shoe nails stamped on the "stub twist" barrels.

I knew that mark looked familiar,just couldn't remember where I saw it, (Old age setting in I guess).:shock: Just happened to be oiling the barrels to my 1891 EH that I just finished rust blueing and there it was! Appears there was a damaged #4 stamping die floating around the Parker shop. Wonder how many more we could find like this and on what year guns?

Well I'll be...! There it is.

Interesting photo, Robert. Thanks! From what I have been able to read in TPS, that would be a stamping for your barrel's 'un-struck' weight (4lb,12oz). Even poundage numbers (possible for my barrels) would only have one numeral stamped. According to TPS though, I thought the weight stamps started around 1877? As the grade listing for #5045 is T0 in the ID & Serialization tome, and it's appearance is somewhat plain, it sure didn't look to be a grade number.

Barrel weight entry
 

The lifter gun that PGCA presented to me, 3920 , is stamped 4 2 ; the accompanying letter indicates delivery 10 september 1874.

Best, Austin

Found another one:D Serial # 15901, 1879'