Cool pics Mark. I remember reading the story years ago about finding Pilar and restoring it and some of his exploits in that boat. Chasing submarines. Lucky he never got close enough to one.

There are a lot of famous people would want to meet and then there are some to just admire from a far.

Opposite ends of the spectrum for sure. I read them both as a boy but I was an O'Connor person through and through. My love of the .270 started as a boy from reading his books. He used it on elk and other large game with success. My early loading recepies came from his books and articles. He only used the 130 grain bullet. I loaded some with 150 grain handloads and found them deficient from an accuracy perspective. Keith said anyone who hunted elk or moose with a .270 was a fool. I disagree. I have killed many moose with the .270 with 130 grain handloads and they don't go far after being hit. I have read that the acrimony between O'Connor and Keith was real.

That's an interesting take on the 130 grain .270

My Ruger No. 1 is far more accurate with the 150 grain Remington Round Nose than any 130 grain I have shot at 100 yard targets. It will print 3/4"groups all day long with the Remington 150 gr. and even boattail 130's by several makers are lucky to print 5" groups.

It just goes to shot that just like some shotguns are particular about shot size and various loads - rifles too have their idiosyncracies.






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Each rifle barrel is a world unto it's own for sure. My .270 is a custom pre-64 model 70 with a Douglas barrel. It doesn't like the 150 grain bullets for some reason. As far as I know from his writings, Jack O'Connor always loaded and used the 130 grain bullet. He never mentioned the 150 grain loadings and didn't list it in his recipes for the .270. I love the .270 and it also makes a great long range coyote gun.

Me and “Papa”at the Floridita bar in Havana, his main hangout!

I don't even wanna ask what she's doing......:corn:





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One of my 270's is a custom stocked pre64 M70 FWT. It likes the 130gre NBT and I'm using Jacks load which if I remember is 58gr of H (or IMR) 4831. As Tom said each rifle is it's own being. For me thats what makes them so much fun.

270 in a 130 grain bullet, whether it a regular or WSM, would hate to wager on the difference performance wise. I know the muzzle velocity on WSM is about 200 fps higher and shoots maybe a quarter inch flatter if zero at 200 yards, but just not enough difference at most reasonable shots that might be within 300 yards. Dang lethal rounds.

Cost and availability of ammunition is a factor though. 270 wins in that regard.