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Dean Romig

08-12-2018 08:04 AM

There came a time, generally agreed it was at the outset of The Great War, that foreign sourced barrels, Damascus included, immediately became unavailable. So, unless Parker Bros. Had some Damascus barrels in house, fluid pressed steel sourced in America, Vulcan being the least expensive, would have been the usual choice. Choice in this case would have been the customer’s in most cases.

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Dean Romig

08-12-2018 08:25 AM

And the 44 is on the left barrel flat where the unstruck barrel weight is always on the right barrel flat.

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Brian Dudley

08-12-2018 08:37 AM

It is all what the customer ordered as the replacement. The barrels were half the price of the gun. Lower grade barrels were cheaper than higher grade barrels.

Allen,

Perhapse photos of this “44” you mention will help some try to identify it.???

Dean Romig

08-12-2018 08:49 AM

I’ve seen it and I’m sure it is just another of those stamps we will never know the significance of.

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Bill Holcombe

08-12-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Poer (Post 250469)

That is an interesting comment. In the spirit of just conversation, why do you suppose those barrels were changed out to Vulcan. Probably a myriad of reasons. Guns are tools that were knocked and banged around and used I am guessing and using Vulcan was just the most economical repair at the time in the evolving faster, better, less expensive industrial process management. Or, was that a conscientious decision to make a change to use modern powder.

I am probably guessing D. All the above. Unless you may know something.

As I understand it, when you got a set of replacement barrels, you had the option of paying to get a matching type or a cheaper barrel type. You see it also with barrels that were added from the factory later. Sometimes they match barrel ttpe sometimes they don't.

Dave Noreen

08-12-2018 09:31 AM

The set of 32-inch Vulcan Steel 20-gauge barrels, fitted to my 1889 vintage GH-Grade 12-gauge 2-frame gun, have a number 153 stamped on the left barrel flat. Have not discovered what that means. The Vulcan Steel barrels have the CT., U.S.A. address, but don't have the Parker Bros. Overload Proved stamp.

allen newell

08-12-2018 09:35 AM

My barrels don't have the overload proof stamping but they do have Walter Kings mark.

allen newell

08-12-2018 09:37 AM

Dean, you are correct. The 44 mark is on the left flat and the unstruck barrel weight mark of 4 6 (with the 6 in an elevated position) on the right flat.

Craig Budgeon

08-12-2018 10:02 AM

Allan, the 44 could represent a material change since Vulcan steel isn't recognized by the SAE, could represent a process change, an inspector stamp, or a sampling/testing mark. When problems arise in manufacturing, you solve the problem first then adjust the process.It also can represent an employee number who is new to soldiering or brazing the barrels together

allen newell

08-12-2018 10:13 AM

The barrels are Titanic steel and marked accordingly. My gut sense is that the 44 is an indiidual's code mark

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