The "Standard" frame size for the 12g. was the 2 frame when things started out. It came to be 1-1/2 later on.

Generally speaking, standard frame sizes are:

20g. - 0
16g. - 1
12g. - 2
10g. - 3

Then if a lighter or heavier gun was needed within a given gauge, the frame size could be altered depending on needs.

I would like to see some pictures of these 1 frame V grade 12 gauge guns. Serial range and clear pic of the lug showing the the frame size would be appreciated.

PML

I had two #1 frame 12 gauge GH Parkers from 1893 within 60 or so serial numbers of one another. Kevin Kelley purchased the best one. I have a PH with Twist barrels and a set of DH Damascus barrels that fit it. Nice little 7 pound guns.

Harry

Not the best quality pic I will grant you, but it appears to be the best I can provide at the moment. 1891 Parker GH 1 frame. 65962. weight is 7lbs 12 oz.

Austin, Was always of the opinion that the 1 frame 12 gauge was the standard gun. 2 frames and up were for heavier guns.

Right Dave - In the days of the exposed hammer Parkers the 1-frame 12 bore was the standard but the 2-frame was ordered by those who shot waterfowl and at pigeon and clays games for a purse of prize. This practice generally carried into the hammerless era until just before the turn of the century when the 1 1/2-frame was introduced.





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Photo of barrel lug as requested, s/n in 199 range from 1922.

Here is a 1 frame D grade I found last year,made 1902.Skeleton butt plate with dam. barrels.Rough shape but a nice little gun with 28" barrels.

I bet that is a light 12 with 3lb 10 oz barrels. I had a 1 frame 3 dog at one time that was 6lbs 12 oz...man those barrels flew.

7 pounds even, fits very well and feels alive in your hands. I was hooked as soon as i mounted the gun. It came from the estate of a fellow club member who was what i call a gun hoarder, would buy anything with no clear purpose just to have it. There were 6 Parkers, this being the only one of good condition.