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Bill Murphy 09-21-2010 08:01 AM

Jerry, what are "non regular steel barrels"?

Jerry Andrews 09-21-2010 04:03 PM

I don't know, I guess I'm trying to say anything steel that's not damascus, twist or rated as not being able to handle modern loads. Jerry

Bruce Day 09-21-2010 04:05 PM

What is a modern load?

Jerry Andrews 09-21-2010 04:09 PM

?? Anyone?

Bruce Day 09-21-2010 04:20 PM

Jerry, that's the point. People have identified "modern" loads from Winchester, Remington and Federal that are under the Parker service load averages on p. 515 of TPS. Then there are the high weight, high powder loads sold as Express, Black Cloud, Golden rack 'em or whatever pheasant loads that are not new but have been around under various names since the 1920's. These loads were not appropriate for most Parkers then and not now. "Modern" tells me nothing, just as a person asking you if they can catch fish with a bamboo rod. You're not going to go after a tarpon with a 4 wt......just match the load to the instrument.

If you can figure out tippet size, leader size, fly line, DT, WF, etc and fly size relative to rod weight and fish size, a person can certainly understand shot and powder charge and be match the load to the gun.

Jerry Andrews 09-21-2010 04:24 PM

Well horse nuts, I just didn't mean to start splitting the metaphorical hair here on loads, I simply tossed out an uneducated, West Virginia, Appalachian term I guess that covers everything here in West Virginia that doesn't blow our hand off or our heads up! Jerry

Bruce Day 09-21-2010 04:36 PM

Jerry, if a person doesn't want to understand loads and pressures and match the hatch a bit then in my opinon, maybe he shouldn't even try to shoot damascus or fluid steel Parkers. Hell Jerry , some folks aren't cut out to be fly fishermen either, and they should just stick with a Zebco and an Ugly Stick and pitch worm balls.

I stand corrected, they could take the easy way out and mail order RST shells.

Jerry Andrews 09-21-2010 04:43 PM

I've used a Zebco and and Ugly stick, possibly at the same time. Been some 40 years ago, but I think I did that. More than likely there was a carp at the end of a hunk of Wheatie dough ball as well. I had fun with it at the time. I think all the experiences we go through add up to the sum of what we become. Sorta. Anyway, I didn't profess to know anything about loads, I'm interested in the concept of anything but blackpowder being shot in damascus/twist guns as I've always been taught that was a huge no no. So this is all interesting to me, please bear with me if I get some terminology incorrect or ask things that are old school to most.

Bruce Day 09-21-2010 04:48 PM

Well you were talking about not having any use for The Parker Story and you were going to sell it. Don't. Read it and understand it and the lights will get brighter.

Francis Morin 09-21-2010 05:05 PM

Older PH Parkers with Twist Barrels
 
I have a 1902 (PGCA Lettered) PH 12- 30" DT No. 2 frame- unaltered and with the later bolt tool steel wear plate- I shoot 2 & 3/4" dram Rem Green RST's in it for pigeons- and it is a pleasure to shoot. I also have shot 2.5 RST 1 oz. orange hulls in it- ditto- And if it wasn't for the Feds and steel or non-tox shot for webfeets, I'd use it for ducks as well-So enjoy your 16 Grade C- great bird gun indeed.:cool:


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