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Brian Dudley 05-15-2018 12:04 PM

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YES.

See attached photo showing both the number 0 and number 1 sized plates. Meriden on top. Remington on bottom. The sizes are for different gauges.

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edgarspencer 05-15-2018 12:47 PM

That's neat Brian. Since the OP's Trojan was a 20, the butt must have been an 0 size, so have you ever seen a dead bird Remington plate in an 0 size, or can we assume it came from Galazan?

Michael Meeks 05-15-2018 12:51 PM

Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?

Brian Dudley 05-15-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 243922)
That's neat Brian. Since the OP's Trojan was a 20, the butt must have been an 0 size, so have you ever seen a dead bird Remington plate in an 0 size, or can we assume it came from Galazan?



The trojan used a completely different plate. The simple serrated style. They only offered 2 sizes of plates. The 12g and the 16/20g size. They were not numbered.

The number 1 size DHBP is a little larger than the 16/20g size trojan plate. Thus explaining why the border on the OP’s plate is almost gone.

Brian Dudley 05-15-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Meeks (Post 243923)
Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?



In some cases, where a heavier gun was needed, Yes.

And to clarify... in this thread, the buttplate numbers are the buttplate numbers, not the frame size. On many earlier 20g gun with 0 frame, the number 1 sized buttplate was used.

Michael Meeks 05-15-2018 02:00 PM

Thank you, Brian! I was mistakenly assuming frame size correlated with butt plate size.

Thomas Baumgardner 05-15-2018 02:39 PM

I took the dogs head plate off of my Trojan and it is a #1. Spoke with Larry DelGrego who confirmed they restored the Trojan but can not provide any more information. Assume dogs head butt plate was on shotgun when it came to the shop so it was kept on the gun.
Tom

Mills Morrison 05-15-2018 10:54 PM

I have a VH 20 that has a non matching GH Grade stock. It is ironic when it is not correct but is yet an improvement over what was there

Dean Romig 05-15-2018 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Meeks (Post 243923)
Very interesting thread! Just a question because I don't know... were 20 gauges ever built on a 1 frame?

Not the Trojans... 12's were built on the 2-frame... 16's were built on the 1-frame... and 20's were built on the 0-frame.





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Dean Romig 05-15-2018 11:16 PM

Thomas - the DHBP with bird on your Trojan was originally intended for a larger buttstock than your Trojan currently has. The butt plate was shaped down in size to fit your buttstock.





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