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Mills:
As I recall, Gallyon's has no records of anything prior to The Great War. What's more, Scott was a massive supplier to the trade, so if you're looking for original owner records it's a very long shot. Then again, you never know...

Mills,

To my knowledge, the only really thorough research on W&C Scott was a book co-written decades ago by a California collector and a Webley historian...Crawford and Watley, respectively.

It's a 92 page hard bound book called "W&C Scott, Gunmakers." They pop up on eBay at obscene prices from time to time.

They give a great history, as well as model and serial number manufacture date info.

Outside of this one book, Geoffrey Boothroyd wrote a bit on W&C Scott in "Sidelocks & Boxlocks."

Unfortunately it seems the history of one of the world's greatest gunmakers is fading quickly. Which is a shame, because they were very much Britain's Remington, in that they supplied parts to other gunmakers just as the original Remington did. And beyond this, W&C made guns "in the white" that other makers slapped their own name on.

Just as Remington's highest grade 1894's are as good as ANY American double made at that time...so do W&C's compare to Boss, Purdey, etc. Its just that those guys made ONLY "best" guns, and W&C Scott made a gun for every price point.

IMO, there were British guns made which were as good as an Imperial Premier. But NONE that were better, comparing any best maker you like.

NDG

Ok. Went to see the guns and we are looking at:

a C G Bonehill top action hammer gun 8 gauge

a Geo Smith Chatham NY 6 gauge - muzzle loader hammer gun.

Geoffrey Boothroyd had some info on Bonehill but I don't see anything on Geo Smith. Wish Daryl Middlebrook was alive . . .

Mills,

The only reference I could find on Geo Smith is here: https://www.earmi.it/USA%20Gunmakers/S.html.

Not much there other than SMITH— Chatham Street, New York, N. Y. Percussion period.

Ken

Thanks Ken. That is more than I found

Mills, I sent you a PM. Let me know if you get it. Thanks.

Got it and responded. Thanks

Found a copy a W. C. Scott, Gunmaker by Crawford and Watley first edition last evening on the internet. The second edition was extremely pricey so I read first and see if I need the later edition.