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Believe what you want . What else would they be ?
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Mark, I think you took my last reply the wrong way. What I was trying to say was Cheddite makes two different size primers, a European size, and a American size primer. I have measured Cheddite 209 primers and they are the same size as Win primers. I know I can go from Win to Cheddite and back without any problems with fit. On other reloading web sites guys have said about problems with fit if they get the wrong Cheddite primers. I know RIO primers are bigger. Hope this clears things up a bit.
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I have never heard they made 2 different sizes before . I know they make different strength primers . But the only ones I have seen available here are the Clerinox CX2000 type 209 . Which are the ones I use that in Cheddite hulls that stay put . They measure slightly larger than American made primers . If I use any of the American made primers in Cheddite hulls they are a loose fit unless you condition the primer pocket first . I haven't had to buy any new Ched primers in a bout 5 years or so maybe they changed them .
Which Cheddite primers are you using ? |
I've used Cheddite for oh, I'm not sure, but for 8 or 10 years. I broke my leg 13 days ago so I can't get down in the basement to check. I did a little checking and found the Cheddite primers for foreign use were never imported to the USA, so I was wrong on that count. Here's some measurements:
This should answer some questions. Point A is the measurement at the top of primer. Point B is the measurement taken as close to the flange as possible. Primer Brand Point A Point B CCI .239" .241"- Cheddite .238" .243"- Federal .242" .241"- Fiocchi .243" .243"- Nobel Sport .242" .242"- Remington .241" .240"- Rio .245" .244"- Winchester .236" .242"- Wolf .238" .242" I'm not sure what a Cheddite hull measures. |
From Ballistic Produces site
Part # 209 Primers Type & Use: Box/Case Diam. #F616 Fiocchi 616 multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.242" #RIO209 Rio 209 multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.245" #CH209 Cheddite 209 multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.242" #CCI CCI 209 small-bore & mild 1000/5000 0.240" #CCIM CCI 209 Magnum magnum 209 uses 1000/5000 0.240" #209A Federal 209A multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.241" #R209 Remington STS multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.241" #W209 Winchester 209 multi-purpose 209 1000/5000 0.2415" For me the Ched primers fit tighter and work better in Ched hulls than US made primers. |
And they're cheaper, the only reason I use them.
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