i too am with pete only trouble i ever had if it was used in a tight primer hole just a little bit harded on use the hammer or press...have had this only to happen a few times...charlie

I have a few thousand CCI209's a few thousand WIN209's and almost a full 5000 sleeve of Remington 209STS primers . I tend to use whatever is OLDEST first and go from there .

I keep a few hundred CCI209M's but they're for my two inline smokepoles .

Sorry if my question moves us off topic, but I'd like to know more about Armbruster's pressure testing. Anyone have his address and any more information?

Tom Armbrust
Ballistic Research
1108 W. May Ave
McHenry, IL 60050-8918.
815.385.0037
E-mail - barbmiller49@yahoo.com

Primers tested by clay game reloaders CCI 209 1.46 tons psi /Winchester209 1.63 /Chaddite cx2000 1.71 Fioccie 616 1.81 / Uee G 1.82 /CCi 209M 1.83 /Martignoni 686 2.10 /Federal 209A 2.11 / Remington 209 2.12 . Best most consistent Chaddite cx2000. Worst CCi209. Stability listed in descending order ChadditeCx2000/ Mantignoni 686/ Federal 209A/Fiocchi616 / UEE-G / Remington209/ Winchester 209/ CCI 209M/ CCI 209 . Hope this helps.Michael.

Thank you, Paul. Now back to watching the Cardinals beat the Cubs.