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Rick Losey 02-03-2017 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 211007)
Why does it need to go to an FFL? Obviously an antique?

I see the firearms to FFL boilerplate statement - nothing from the seller

the seller may or may not be willing to ship direct - the buyer would need to ask

some sellers insist - its their choice

edgarspencer 02-03-2017 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 211007)
Why does it need to go to an FFL? Obviously an antique?

Dave, Many states have passed their own legislation that essentially states that if a firearm can chamber "readily available ammunition" it must be treated as a modern firearm. New York, and their "Safe Act" was one of them, and I found out, first hand, that VA is another. Unless a seller knows every state's (constitutionally correct is another subject entirely) legislation, he may be taking the conservative approach, and treating all the same.
Even C&R licensees have lost the ability to directly receive guns, which the BATFE has already determined to be C&R eligible, directly from either an FFL, or private individual in those states. Many of these states are facing challenges in the courts, and it's entirely possible all these punitive regulations will be thrown out.

Rick Losey 02-03-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 211010)
. New York, and their "Safe Act" was one of them,

??

from the NYSAFE FAQ page

Antique Guns & Magazines
Q: Is there any exception for historic or antique guns and magazines?
A: Yes, they are exempt from the prohibition against transfer, but if the gun qualifies as an assault weapon or the magazine holds over ten rounds it must be registered.

Brian Dudley 02-03-2017 11:53 AM

Yes rick, the safe act defines antiques the same way that batf does.

edgarspencer 02-03-2017 12:17 PM

Being an hour away from Dutchess County, I do most of my shopping over there. CT has even more paperwork.
The language is ambiguous at best, and BSA, Safari, and one other (Macys does not tell Bloomingdales, and I don't reveal all my favorite either), will still have you do a 4473

Rick Losey 02-03-2017 12:38 PM

CYA is not codified law :rotf:


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