I just noticed THE CHART POSTED ABOVE IS INCORRECT. THESE ARE NOT THE CORRECT PIN SEPARATIONS. The only correct pin separation chart that I know of is on page 527 of The Parker Story.

Robin,I would think that you gave that info to Craig Reynolds who published an updated 1/2 frame article a couple of Parker Pages ago. He used info from Kirby's research and added some additional info and an updated list of known 1/2 frame guns. An outstanding article I might add.

Parker Bros. was the one who first conjured up the idea for the 1/2 frame.I have a copy of the blueprint for the 1/2 frame and if memory serves it was dated 1930. The drawing is in my other computer and not available right now but I posted this drawing here not to long ago and sent some e-copies to interested parties. Maybe someone here has it in their machine an can post it for us all.

Dave,

You are correct! For a man your age your memory is good!

Craig Reynolds wrote an article for the Winter Parker Pages in 2009, Volume 16, Issue 4, titled "How Many Parker Half Frames?" and the blue print is included too.

I also see that #241,672 is not listed in that article's data. I hope Craig sees this thread and adds it to his data collection.

Bill, were the barrels on 241672 replaced by Remington?

Austin, Robin's chart has three errors in pin placement distance. Maybe he would correct them and repost the chart.

Austin, I also find it hard to believe that the #3 frame was made in two different widths. No, I have not seen an eight gauge on a #3 frame. Funny how that set of figures appears on a chart put together by a Remington employee who had probably never seen an eight gauge Parker. The smallest hammerless eight gauge frame I have ever seen is a #6.

Bill,

The chart I posted is a copy of a Remington chart taken from one of their catalogs. I didn't create the chart, its more or less an historical document and nothing I would change, right or wrong. It is what it is.

I simply copied it from an old issue of Parker Pages just as it was copied by Mr. Kirby when he wrote that article. I believe I even listed the issue I took it from.

Please, don't shoot the messenger :duck: because its ME!:eek:

Robin

Dean, I replaced the barrels on #241,672 with a set from the old junk box.

Thanks, Robin, I just wanted to make sure that everyone had the correct information. By the way, the 1930 Remington half frame blueprint that Dave mentions is the blueprint that says "Use #1 barrels." Only after Dave sent me a copy of that blueprint did I think to use a set of #1 frame 16 gauge barrels on my half frame DHE which, up to that time, had no barrels at all.

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I remember a gun that was offered at Las Vegas that was stamped 1/2 on the lug but was a 1 1/2.

Best, Austin