I can shoot the 3 inch drop guns if pay particular attention to keeping my head up and not putting my cheek hard on the comb. Instinctive fast shot am sure to forget causing a miss. My prefered drop at heel is about 2 1/2 inch. What really counts is drop at face which can be built up a bit with a strap on cheek pad. 4 of my Parkers have been from about 2 3/4 to 2 1/2 inches. 3 inches to 2 1/2 not always possible & if they can be bent that much pitch gets off with the bend.

Buy the way shotgun shell looking lasers are now very cheap off eBay and Amazon. ,under 20 bucks. They will let the spot drift around some, you can correct for it by putting a index mark on the rim.

William

In my experience the chamber insert lasers are inadequate. The one I find useful is a Robert Louis unit that fits in the muzzle and centers itself. It is not cheap however. While it is beneficial to new shooters I also find it helpful when I switch guns with different stock dimensions. Before going to the range with a different gun a few minutes with the laser beforehand helps immensely. One of my Parkers has 3" drop and requires a gun mount considerably different than others I use. The laser makes transitioning quicker.

Just for interest regarding gun mount and turn-of-the-century dimensions
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...3d3Eno/preview

Whatever this fella is doing seems to be working ;) Crawling the stock with right thumb almost hitting nose. That's what I do, but obviously with less effectiveness :(

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../406477891.jpg

Correct me if I'm wrong John Truitt, but that stock comb, from front to back, looks pretty level with the rib... is that your secret to success?





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Thanks for the input. To put it another way: for those who shoot their guns "off the peg" as it were, how much variation in things like LOP, DAH/C, etc. do you find acceptable?

Phil: as observed we change LOP and DAC going from summer to winter shooting, 70 degree Kansas opener vest to 10 Kansas in January insulated coat. My regular recreational skeet SxS has the original buttplate (for Arizona "cold" weather ;) ) and a slip on pad for AZ hell season :(
It does take me a round or 5 of low gun skeet to get back in the groove with every change.

I like 13 3/4 to 13 7/8ths lop, dac 1 5/8 ths to 1 3/4 and dah 2 3/4 to 2 7/8 ths,
scott

I like 14-1/4 LOP and no more than 2.5" DAH. I can shoot other dimensions but I have to work at it. I shoot low gun all the time and a longer LOP will sometimes cause a poor gun mount. For clays I change guns constantly so I am constantly adjusting. That is, until just before grouse season when I start using my preferred grouse gun and then seldom switch again until the season is over. Because I shoot it at clays once or twice a week as well I gradually shoot it with more clothes on and get used to it.

Actually Drew, the gun should come up to your face, not your face bending down to the gun. And, you should be able to put two fingers between your face and hand. Now, people pre mount every which way and some shoot very good doing it. You put more weight on your front foot and your head will naturally go forward [ and down a bit ]. Equal weight on both feet and a more " heads up " style of shooting. If you stand more perpendicular to the target a shorter stock will work than one standing like a rifle shooters stance. So I don't believe there's a quick answer to your question. Mount your gun and see if you're looking down the rib. I'm 6' 3" and weigh 235 with a long neck. In the summer I like 15 1/4 LOP, 2 1/8 DAC, and 3 DAH. In the winter 14 5/8 LOP. And as you can tell, I shoot in a head up position. Practice mounting your gun, then shoot it on a pattern board if you're not satisfied with your scores. Good luck.

I wish I could keep clicking on that "Thanks" icon.

Paul, I find your method - the same gun mount I use - to apply more in a quick mounting hunting situation than clays games... unless of course, you shoot 'low gun' at clays - which I do.





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