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edgarspencer 10-18-2016 02:28 PM

Only two of my Hammerless guns are pre 1900, and only one of them, 88490, a Titanic Barreled CH, has the K in lieu of a barrel steel marking. All of my hammer guns are marked with the material designation, and no K or Kf.

Scott Janowski 10-18-2016 04:36 PM

Here is mine
 
102399,VH 20 gauge, ordered February 8th 1901, shipped July 23rd 1901. The right Barrel flat marked Kf with the weight 2 15 and an X near the breach end. The left barrel flat marked PAT'D APR 11 1876. The rib is marked; Parker Brothers Makers Meriden Conn. Vulcan Steel

Dean Romig 10-18-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Laudermilch (Post 203612)
118298 is a P grade with 26" twist barrels and letters as such

Are you certain the T is in a circle or does the T have a crescent above and below the T as a Twist Steel barreled gun should have?





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Gary Laudermilch 10-18-2016 08:41 PM

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Well, I thought it was just a poor stamping but it does have an arc above and below. See picture

Dean Romig 10-18-2016 08:43 PM

Yes Gary, that is the stamp for Twist Steel - a crescent above and a crescent below the T.





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Dean Romig 10-18-2016 09:02 PM

Here is a list of many of my hammerless guns in ascending serial number order:...

57043 D (Damascus) J above 5 lb., 11oz
67669 D (") C above 3 lbs., 14oz
67772 4 above D (") C above 4 lbs., 1oz
73264 A6 above D (") 3 lbs., 7oz Left + and Right +
76084 4 above D (") C above 3 lbs., 5oz A
90739 K (no barrel steel stamp) 4 lbs., 3oz 3 (grade) Left + and Right +
142193 T in the circle 3 lbs., 6oz 3 (") W.K. in oval
147673 4 above D (") C above 3 lbs., 2oz 3 (") W.K. in oval & Yankees stamp(?)
149020 4 above D (") C above 3 lbs. 3 (")
163160 T in the circle 3 lbs., 4oz 3 (") J.G. in circle & Yankees stamp(?)
228145 HT over A, V in the circle, 2 lbs., 15oz, Overload Proved Parker Bros


So, only 90739, an 1899 gun, meets the criteria we are looking for, and it appears at probably the beginning of the Kf stamp in lieu of the steel type stamp 'era'.

I would surmise that such stamps would certainly have ended in 1910 (or before) as that is when Charles A. King stepped down from his position of Gun Works Superintendent and his son Walter King took the position.


Can anyone supply printed documentation of this having been a standard practice - that of the elimination of the barrel steel type formerly stamped on the forward part of the right barrel flat and having been replaced by C.A.K.'s 'finished' (f) inspection stamp?






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Chris Fauser 11-27-2020 08:52 PM

123622 1904 has the kf and barrel weight no other markings on the flats but on barrels says Vulcan Steel.

Dave Noreen 11-27-2020 10:34 PM

I've been studying on this for a while now.

I have recorded Vulcan Steel barrels with the Kf from 103266 to 133683. 135013 is the lowest V in a circle I've recorded.

I've recorded barrels with the Titanic Steel and Acme Steel rib legend and the K in the barrel steel location on the flat from 105974 to 146730. Lowest T in circle 151999.

Bill Vance 11-27-2020 11:44 PM

ser# 100525 Kf plus barrel wt and Vulcan steel on rib.

Bill

Rick Riddell 11-28-2020 09:36 AM

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VH 12 ga
142422 (1907)
WK
K
V
3 15
1 1/2

No other stamps!


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