Maybe Chuck Bishop would look at the stock books for the entries of the first factory stock .410s. Or maybe not.

Dean, I was under the impression that the barrels on that proto 410 came from Ithaca. Of course, by 1924 Ithaca had owned the Lefever name and parts for some time so they may have been an Ithaca produced Lefever Nitro Express barrels.

Hey Russ,
I have 149969 V Grade 0 frame, 28" barrels. I had a family member who only wanted me to buy it. He is a Winchester guy and this was the only Parker he owned. I told him he would have to wait a few years to raise the cash. He asked me how much did I think he would sell it for? I told him to look up Guns International, Guns America, Gun Broker etc. He laughed and said "I have an idea what they are going for." This is what I will sell it to you for...no higher...no lower! I think I sent you some pictures awhile back. My quests do not turn out like yours and others here. I have been looking for a 32" Dam barrel for a 12 Gauge 1 !/2 Frame that fits a C or B or one of my Ds. I need it for a little more punch for a goose gun. There are a few other small guns I am looking for. Now that I am mending from my back surgery, and listen to the Docs and not me. I should be able to going to shows and follow some leads.

The Ithaca produced Lefever shotgun was the Nitro Special --

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Nitro Express was a Remington shotgun shell --

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psm02t7f2l.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...psjmhl4w2x.jpg

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Bill, that is very likely to be the case.





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Not to be redundant but ,,, I will ask again ,does anyone know the earliest OO Frame Parker 28 Gauge ??? :corn:

The authors of The Parker Story indicate that the 00-frame and the 1 1/2-frame were introduced around 1900. They say that a 1 1/2-frame built in 1898 is known but make no reference to the earliest known 00-frame, only that the earliest 28 gauge guns were built on the 0-frame. We know of a lot of 0-frame 28 gauge guns made up to the early 'teens and there is probably a significant number of 0-frame 28 gauge guns made after the introduction of the 00-frame.

So guys, please - what is the date of manufacture or the serial number of your early 28 gauge gun on the 00-frame? Prior to 1920 would probably be good limit because we know the 00-frame was in use in 1920 by the dimension charts on page 528 of TPS.





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Thanks for the reply Dean , the last part of your post is what I am wondering , Mine " Serial # 225241 " is too late of gun to be considered for the earliest , I am Sure !

Both of mine were built in the 20's, 198xxx 1922, 216xxx 1926. Both OO frames. I know they are not what you are looking for but maybe they can be a start for you data base.:bigbye:

I have 211216 which is also too late.






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