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Patrick Lien 08-13-2016 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John Taddeo (Post 200222)
Educate me.... does the location of the bulge say anything to what may have happened ??

maybe hot shells?
maybe long shells?
maybe long hot shells?
maybe thin barrels?
maybe any of these combinations?
maybe something else?

PML

Paul Ehlers 08-13-2016 08:45 PM

I saw the listing this morning & got to pondering all sorts of questions about it myself.

Because I'm not an expert, I don't have the gun in hand to inspect & I wasn't there to see the deed done. I have to believe the poster of what his take is on the matter.

I just hope this doesn't grow a life of it's own and feed the Damascus blow-up myth's & legend's of using nitro powder. IMO: There is just too many possible variables in play here to truly speculate on what the cause may have been.

Scott Janowski 08-13-2016 09:38 PM

My guess is a base wad on a previous shell caused a partial blockage.

Jerry Harlow 08-13-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by larrystauch (Post 200217)

I doubt the person even knew they did it.


I also doubt they knew as it is subtle compared to this photo. The Damascus pattern makes it less visible. I would guess factory heavy 2 3/4 inch loads with standard 12k psi pressure in 2 1/2 inch chambers.

Here is a set of 12 GA VH barrels I purchased from Brian Dudley in this condition. I'm guessing on these factory 3 inch shells in the 2 3/4 inch chambers, as the bulge is four and a quarter inches out. Now whoever did this you would think had to notice the first one and you wonder why they did it again? Maybe the excitement of a gobbler in front of them?

p.s. I don't think the GH is worthless now. It still has some value although a fraction of the before value.

Jerry Harlow 08-13-2016 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Janowski (Post 200229)
My guess is a base wad on a previous shell caused a partial blockage.

Possible for once but not twice. You may have not noticed he is showing both are bulged.

greg conomos 08-13-2016 10:26 PM

Well...I guess the old saying 'Never lend someone your car or your girl....' applies here. In fact, you could use 'hot load' instead of 'rod' and it would work for guns, too.

CraigThompson 08-13-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 200212)
Maybe a reload with more powder than should have been in there.

I want to know... Why pay the money to list an ad on GI just to publically shame an unknown, to us, party?

Depends what level he's at on GI . Generally a bigger dealer gets the higher priced deal and you can list all you want for one price . So if that's the case this listing cost him nothing .

Russ Jackson 08-14-2016 12:00 AM

I saw it yesterday ,what a shame and although I have never met Steve in person,the first 28 Ga. Parker I ever purchased was from him and he was a Pleasure to deal with and a Fine Gentleman , I think he is, as he said in the ad ,Boiling , maybe just beside himself and hoping the shooter will at least own up to it if they in fact knew about the damage ! At the least an apology would surely be in order ! Just my opinion , I haven't called to inquire of the gun or spoke with any one about it !

Richard Flanders 08-14-2016 03:09 AM

I think this is heavy load damage, not obstruction. Both bbls being bulged indicates that, and they look equally bulged. Just my guess. Nice gun; what a shame. I'd have a go at taking the bulges out were it mine and would feed it nothing but low pressure loads after that, but you'd be wailing on them pretty good to take them out in that location. It would be an interesting project to at least give it a try.

Thanks to Edgar for the post below. Sounds like taking the bulges out is not an option. A real shame.

edgarspencer 08-14-2016 07:52 AM

I saw this gun at Hausmann's and both bulges are right at the forcing cones. Additionally, they go all the way around the diameter, right into both top and bottom ribs, which, to me, says the barrels would have to be taken completely apart to tap the bulges down. I am also of the opinion that they were 2 3/4" hot shells.


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