Bill, if you're going to Hausman's I'll meet up with you and give you a couple of old turkey carcasses I've had hanging for a couple of months. When they take an 8 ga. hit they should really tell a story...

when i load my 10 ga with filler 16 ga wad over shot charge it opens my pattern up from 86 % to 40 % at 40 yds. but my wad does reach the target. try all filler wads under shot and a thin over shot card for top of your load and you should start seeing shot in your target( i hope :banghead:) scott

bill how did that 95 yard shot turn out on the goose and turkeys. my father killed a turkey in 1962 at the range of 105 steps. he was shooting a 10 ga double lefever. using a load of bb in lead. one shot hit that turkey in the head. but that one shot did the job. what luck... charlie

well i got to work on those 8 ga loads again. i loaded 2 shells with no 6 shot. i shot them and agin there were only one hole in target. shot at 40 yards. i did not have any bigger shot to shoot. i set down and loked at my wadding again they were SP 8 REMINGTON Wads. the wads were solid they did not have any slits. so i took a sharp knife andmade 2 cuts i made the wads have4 pedals.i loaded up some more rounds shot the target at 40 yards. it threw a even pattern would have madeyou boys proud of me to see whatthat pattern. i belive its some of the best patterns that old 8 ga as ever shot. i still have not figured out the italian wads yet.i loaded up 30 rounds of no. 6 s this should make some fine crow shells. will try these shells out friday morning. gonna use that old parker lifter gun with 26 inch barrels gonna be hard to miss with this combination. charlie