It sounds like you are lifting your head and don't realize it?

When was the last time your vision was tested?
I have an astigmatism in the lens of my right (dominant) eye.
You may have developed one recently. It may not cause blurred vision but can be the cause of the apple being way off of the picnic table. I have corrective lenses for this problem.





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My vision was last tested about six years ago. I had my cheek buried in the stocks of the guns I was trying to pattern. If you divide the targets into four squares all of my patterns from three different guns centered in the upper right square. Never had this problem before. Maybe Dean is correct.

stand in front of mirror, close your eyes, mount the gun, open your eyes, where is your eye in reference to rib & bead?

Here's a long shot... :rotf:
Have you had any change in your weight?
That could make a difference.

I am talking about shooting at a patterning board not clays, doves or ducks. So unless I am missing something here what dose pointing a shot gun at a mirror got to do with it.

I expect he is asking if your eye is centered down the rib, cast on or off and thickness at the comb can affect alignment

Don't waste time on something that requires all sorts of experimentation. You say this is a recent phenomenon and it happens with all the guns you have tested on the pattern board... First thing to discover is what has recently changed... Certainly the guns haven't changed... Get your vision tested.






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I once had a gun which shot as you mention after missing enough Grouse with it , I had a Friend come along and we shot the gun on paper and Lo and Behold it did it for him too ! Maybe you could take a shooting partner to the paper and get his results also , this could at least eliminate part of the problem and give you an idea if it is in fact the gun or the shooter ! Just a Thought !

Hello Russ. Yea I thought about that but the problem is that I took three guns to the range and it did the same thing to a certain degree. All the stocks are different from each other (witch happens when you are an impulse buyer). I am starting to think I need to glue a rear sight to each gun.