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- - 8-gauge Lefever (https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18441)

CraigThompson

02-22-2016 07:27 AM

I like this !

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2432-391/

Who is "Paul Tuder Jones II" ?

Will Gurton

02-23-2016 09:59 PM

Tudor Jones

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 189052)

Who is "Paul Tuder Jones II" ?

Investment Broker, I believe originally from Memphis.

Somehow related to Lord Templeton of Templeton Funds if my memory serves me correctly.

Then again it has failed me before. Lol

But this will get you in the Ballpark, I promise.

Will

Dave Noreen

02-24-2016 12:47 AM

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I like this !

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2432-391/

With a forearm that doesn't come within 1/8 inch of the frame knuckle, and the frame of the Deeley lever latch cracked through the middle!!

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Forearm is slightly loose and in need of a minor adjustment,

Understatement of the year!!

Pete Lester

02-24-2016 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 188826)

My local gun emporium has a Lefever Arms Co., F-Grade, 8-gauge, serial number 12784 with 28-inch Damascus barrels and a grip safety a bit different then the grip safety shown on page 147 of Robert Elliot's book.

The muzzles look nicely crowned and finished under their decades of patina. Don't appear cut at all. While no one around here has an 8-gauge bore micrometer, I used the 10-gauge spade on mine. While it rattled around in the bore, at about two inches back from the muzzles it began to get purchase, so I'd estimate the chokes are 3 1/2 to 4 inches long.

Thoughts? Comments?

Nice gun. I am curious, given the short barrels, what does it weigh, is it a light 8 (if there is such a thing)?

Brian Dudley

02-24-2016 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 189189)

With a forearm that doesn't come within 1/8 inch of the frame knuckle, and the frame of the Deeley lever latch cracked through the middle!!

Understatement of the year!!

Just details... No big deal.

CraigThompson

02-24-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Will Gurton (Post 189186)

The history of this fellow !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Tudor_Jones

If you read into it far enough you see he hosted a fundraiser for the chump in the white house . That is a huge strike against the guy in my opinion !

Craig Larter

02-24-2016 08:59 AM

He is also selling a bunch of his sporting art at the guyette and deeter auction. I believe some of the great decoys in that auction are coming from another wall Street trader's collection Jim Cook.

Bill Zachow

02-26-2016 07:08 AM

Just for info, Parker was the main producer of 8 gauges of the quality american double gun makers. Their 400 plus certainly outranks LC Smith's approximate 30 and Lefevers, fewer than that. In 50 years of gun collecting I have seen only one Lefever 8. It was a beat, cut barreled gun. For additional info, in my second to last job of my career, the toolroom at the manufacturing plant was run by two Lefevers. Both great grandsons of the original. Excellent machinists but neither owned any guns but did have one early catalog that I copied.

Bill Murphy

02-26-2016 09:26 AM

There are a few light eights out there. A friend sold a #5 frame gun that was very light, but I don't know the exact weight. One DH 30" eight in my collection weighs exactly ten pounds, a real lighty. It is the only 30" hammerless eight in the stock books. It was ordered by T.H. Keller, a waterfowler's waterfowler.

Dave Noreen

02-26-2016 06:22 PM

I stopped by after skeet shooting today and checked on the Lefever 8-gauge bird gun. We put it on the scale and it was a svelte 11 pounds 14.1 ounces.

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