The super crimper is not necessary - on my cut shells I just use the standard Mec pre crimp toll and shells come out great.

Same with me no change to the standard Mec Crimp set up. Even fresh trimmed hulls crimp fine with Mec's Plastic Pre Crimp. I do Skive the hulls, don't have to but the wad slides in easier if Skived. It's a quick job Balistic Products Hull Skiving tool chucked up in the lathe. Hold the hull on the spinning tool with a little twist of the fingers for a second or so all it takes.

By the way bought a big box of once fired Federal 10 G hulls on line. my opinion It's a lot better Hull than Cheddites.

William

I've been finding red dot a little difficult to come across lately. If anyone else does, they might try 21 gr. of 700X and 1 1/8 oz. of shot. This is another untested load, but I've been using it for years, and never had a problem with it in any of my 10's. Just an FYI, The IMR handloaders guide from 1996 lists 22.5 grains of 700X...SP10 wad...1 3/8 oz. shot...at 1190 fps. and 9700 psi., with a 2 7/8 inch case length.

i seen a box of winchester shells in 10 ga that were loaded with 1 3/8 ounce of lead shot the other day my first time to notice a older loading in this weight of shot shell...i can find reddot powder better in my area than i can the 700 powder...charlie

Or Promo, the same as RD. Austin, I find it amazing that in 1996 IMR would be listing loads for the 2 7/8" 10ga. I would have thought that by 1996 the loads would just be for the 3 1/2" 10ga. I've used 700X but for targets - not sure but it was a 1 1/8 oz 12ga load they list. It's nice to see someone dig out a older reloading manual and find loads for the 2 7/8 10ga. Thanks.

If I ever get around to it I'm going to shoot some of my 10 guage 2 7/8 Peters paper shells. Once I have the empties I'll work up a 1 1/4 oz load of #4 shot with 700 X and roll crimp it. Should be good for woodcock.

i have an old load from dupont with 21 grs 700-x and 1 1/4 oz at 1175 fps. i shoot it at winter crows and it shoots good

Have you tried that load in paper cases with wadding, or in plastic with SP 10 wads and a filler in the shot cup?

Austin, I think your 1 1/4oz of #4's for woodcock is a little light - maybe a 1 3/8oz of BB's would be better.

if the bow wave doesn't knock them out of the air -

the jetwash will