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The No. 1 1/2 was long gone by the time the NID came along in 1926. In late 1919, Ithaca thinned out their grades when they quit offering composite iron and steel barrels after The Great War, and the bold floral engraving that had been introduced on the No. 1 1/2 in the summer of 1915 --
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...lfJuly1915.jpg became the new No. 1 -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...9Catalogue.jpg |
When I looked at the Ithaca book last night there was no grade 1 1/2 NID so figured it was discontinued by then. Never did get the 1 1/2 grade anyways. Still you don't find a super 10 everyday and a grade 1 even more so.
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Did they make a Flues 1 1/2 with fluid steel barrels ? Never mind I read the add more carefully and answered my own question ! |
Gave the NID Super 10 a careful inspection yesterday. Gun seems to be unaltered. Chokes are long and measure .018 right barrel .029 Left. This with a 12 G Skeet's tool than may have bottomed out behind the choke could have more choke. Minimum wall thickness is .051. Chambers have not been altered . Took it to the range for function test it works just fine. Patterned with some RST 1 1/8 oz # 8's Nice patterns round and full. Point of impact little bit better than flat. Very shootable
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...psgyc43goq.jpg http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...pswxkyfdfc.jpg Real concern was the stock. Last stop was PGCA member Danny Patton's who said he could soak the oil out and finish so the stock matches front and rear.. Replace that Pachmyer White line pad too. Shop gave be 3 day return privileges, think I am going to keep her. William |
i think if you don't - you should say so here at the 2 1/2 day mark to that the line can start forming
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To measure bore diameter with a Skeet's, a Manson and a vernier caliper, mark a place on the barrel near the extent of the measuring devices. Measure wall thickness, top and bottom at this point. Use a micrometer or a caliper to measure the outside diameter of the barrel at the same place, Subtract the two wall thicknesses from the outside diameter. This is your bore diameter. Now measure the choke diameters with the Skeet's gauge. Subtract the choke diameter from the bore diameter and now you have the choke constriction. You can do the same with an eight gauge and the same tools.
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Am going to keep her for sure.
I could have measured O/D and subtracted wall thickness to get bore but measuring was in the gun shop and limited to tools at hand., my buddy's Skeets and Mansion Gauge Left my Micrometers at home. Real test was dozen miles away at the gun club on paper. Am pretty sure the chokes have never been touched. Shop must have taken in a lot of Ithaca's from the same person. Right beside it on the rack was a 20 & 16 all same engraving and I assume Grade. 4th Ithaca in the rack was a 12 Field Grade. Start a whole new collection right there if you wanted too. I had been on the hunt for a Parker Hammerless 10 but this will fill the bill until the right one comes up. It weighs 9 1/4 lbs and seems to have more weight in the barrel than my 3 Frame Parker 10 G Hammer gun. Side by side the Ithaca's frame looks almost dainty next to the Parker. Will compare them side by side over the next few weeks. It swings nice. Thanks to all that helped me with information. Not many places you can go for advice you can trust in a few minutes time William -- |
Congrats on a great Super-Ten. That would make a great collection, a set of NID No. 1s in all bore sizes. Some time back, Steve Barnett had probably the hardest one to come by, this 34-inch barrel NID Magnum-Twelve No. 1E --
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/5001553.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/5001552.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...er/5001551.jpg I've got the other tough No. 1 in my gunroom, a 28-gauge -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...IDGrade101.jpg |
Nice one Bill. Did you happen to notice the barrel lengths on the 16 & 20?
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Ah how I lust for a (reasonably priced) Ithaca MAG 10 NID hopefully grade 2 :rolleyes:
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