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Mark: My DHE 20 bore which I purchased from Holt's in England has a straight grip stock with a chequered butt (no SSBP or heel & toe plates) just wood. The gun has English proofs and was finished in 1925 & has 30 inch barrels. If you're interested I'll take some pictures & post them.
Best Regards, George |
George, for the benefit of all, please do post some pictures.
Thanks, Dean |
Butt Plates
My 20 ga. Lifter Gun, SN 10165 from the Jim Parker Collection has a no checkering on the grip or forearm and it has a skeleton butt plate with no checkering in the center area ... Is that common among early Parkers, or is it a rarity ?
Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com |
Larry, e mail your serial # to me and I will to look at that order again. Bruce, the DHE 20 is exactly what I am talking about. Here is the order for that gun. Note "no butt plate". When I first started this job of research, I thought this meant nothing on the butt and the customer would put his own pad on the gun. The price of a pad is $4.00 which was really high at the time. The pattern on this D grade is similar to the B grade I have but the B is a little finer.
Bruce, I tried to copy the order book and post it here but it didn't work. I'll send it to you as a scan and you can try posting it here. Thanks Mark |
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SN 157,389 Order Book entry.
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William Wagner in Washington, DC ordered many guns with "no butt". I have not run into one of these guns to determine what the deal is. However, I doubt that they were checkered butt guns. I think Wagner just didn't like paying $4.00 for a Silvers pad. I think if we find some of these guns, we will find recoil pads on the south end.
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Larry's AA says no butt. So we have no heel plate, no butt plate and no butt. We need to fine a gun that says no butt to see if it is checkered. Interesting.
Mark |
Mark: The 20 bore DHE that I bought in England has the SN 213884 and is listed in the serialization book as a "T13" with straight stock, ejectors & 30 inch barrels made in 1925. The PGCA letter that I ordered had no further information. The gun is in beautiful original condition with British Proofs. If I can figure out how to post pictures here I will do so.
Best Regards, George |
What beautiful writing that person had.
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