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Dean Romig 02-14-2015 10:05 PM

If those are ducks I see flying in that vignette then it is a Grade-2.

Dennis E. Jones 02-15-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop (Post 159347)
That gun is a GH, not a DH. Look at the receiver engraving. What is the number below the S/N on the receiver flat and what is the full serial number?

I got to worrying that I was wrong about the grade so I dug it back out and checked. It is an ten bore with Damascus barrels, serial #57431, there is a 3 above the serial number and a "D" below. The engraving on the action panels is of pointing dogs not birds like on my G grade guns. So from the above I concluded it was a D grade. Am I wrong? I have a similar marked 12 bore that has drop points on the stock cheeks and I believe it is a D grade also.

I'm certainly no expert but do love old side by side shotguns or rifles no matter what gauge or caliber or who made them.

Best regards to all who have chimed in.

Rick Losey 02-15-2015 12:37 PM

57431 lists as a D3 10 with 32 inch Damascus barrels

Close ups of the engraving would help

Dean Romig 02-15-2015 01:30 PM

Pointing dogs on the side panels along with the serial number and grade stamps on the water table confirm it as a Grade-3 or DH.

Steve Huffman 02-15-2015 01:31 PM

letter time

John Dallas 02-15-2015 05:20 PM

It's a Small World (no, not Disneyworld)
 
xxx

Chuck Bishop 02-16-2015 10:12 AM

My apologies to Mr. Jones, it is listed in the Order Book as a DH. It's within a few thousands of the earliest hammerless guns. Mr. Dudley nailed it as a very early hammerless gun. The question is is this gun's engraving pattern the same for all these early DH hammerless guns, if so, when did the change to the pattern we are used to seeing on DH's happen? I wonder what a GH or PH in the same serial number range would look like? Let's see some closeups of the 3 sides of the receiver. If the engraving pattern was different, could it also be that Parker didn't put the cheek drop points on either at this early time? I think the stock is original.

We don't have the Stock Book for this gun but we do have the Order Book. The info is worth a letter.

Brian Dudley 02-16-2015 11:11 AM

Another detail to note about stock checkering on these early DH guns. Where the pattern comes up into the crotch of the grip, they cut them up at a sharp angle at that point. This is a feature I have only seen on these very early hammerless guns.

Rick Losey 02-16-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop (Post 159484)
The question is is this gun's engraving pattern the same for all these early DH hammerless guns, if so, when did the change to the pattern we are used to seeing on DH's happen?

I would like to see the dogs as well, the earliest DH patterns were different than the later norm


55801- about the 20th DH 12 listed in the serialization book -(i know there are gaps)

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6897


http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6898

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6899

Gerald McPherson 02-16-2015 11:35 AM

ANY DROP POINTS ON THAT GUN?


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