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Larry Frey 09-19-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Masciarella (Post 147500)
Maybe the better question for me to ask is whether there is any generally accepted industry standard for making the evaluation (as opposed to asking personal opinions)?

Ray,
I believe there are two standards when judging percentage of case colors. One is used by sellers and one is used by buyers. If I were looking to purchase your gun, percentage of case colors would be the last thing I would be looking at. The wood and engraving along with those beautiful Damascus barrels would consume all my attention. It seems to me that guns with a lot of engraving tend to loose color faster than a VH. Besides, when the only CC remaining is down in the engraving cuts, I think it highlights rather than hides the real beauty of the guns engraving.

Ray Masciarella 09-19-2014 03:45 PM

Larry, I agree with you. There seems to be too much focus on CCH in determing value. I like to look at the whole package. I just raised the question because it seems to be so important to the Parker collecting community. Thx, Ray

Dean Romig 09-19-2014 04:13 PM

Ray, and others, you will notice hat I preceded my comment with "IMHO" and everybody has one... an opinion that is.
There are hose who disagree with my opinion and there are "NRA Standards of Condition" but I don't know exactly what they are so I don't resort to them.

Ray Masciarella 09-19-2014 05:17 PM

Dean, thank you for sharing your opinion. That's what I asked for in my initial post. Only when there seemed to be such a wide differences in opinion did I wonder if there was an industry standard. Maybe I posed my initial question incorrectly.

Btw, I looked at those NRA standards and they don't help much. They are rather vague and subjective. Maybe there is no answer to my question. Maybe Julia's is what I should rely on as they are a respected leader in the industry when it comes to buying/selling guns. Their evaluations are nothing more than their opinions but it is something to go by.

Thx again

Bob Hardison 09-19-2014 05:38 PM

Very good questions and responses. I to am somewhat confused about CCH %. I also agree that many VH Parkers seem to have more CCH than equal condition higher grades. Ray: Beautiful A. I would love to have one like it even without any CCH. Bob

charlie cleveland 09-19-2014 06:06 PM

i hope ya ll figure this one out i m confused also...charlie

Ray Masciarella 09-19-2014 06:24 PM

Thx, Bob. I don't think a VH has more. You can just see it better because it doesn't get lost in the engraving. The CCH on guns with less engraving also looks glossy because the polishing if the frame comes through. Frames were highly polished before engraving. The more engraving the more the the glossy appear was removed.

I once saw a circa 1920 BHE that was almost brand new. It had all of its CCH but it appeared dull except for the few areas that were not engraved where it appeared glossy.

Ray Masciarella 09-19-2014 06:25 PM

Thx, Bob. I don't think a VH has more. You can just see it better because it doesn't get lost in the engraving. The CCH on guns with less engraving also looks glossy because the polishing if the frame comes through. Frames were highly polished before engraving. The more engraving the more the glossy appearance was removed.

I once saw a circa 1920 BHE that was almost brand new. It had all of its CCH but it appeared dull except for the few areas that were not engraved where it appeared glossy.

Dean Romig 09-19-2014 07:13 PM

On the other hand, the intricate and delicate engraving of a high grade gun like your AH is often somewhat obscured by a high percentage of CCH. Personally, I would prefer to be able to see fine engraving over vivid CCH. But again, that's just my humble opinion.

Mike McKinney 09-19-2014 10:46 PM

I appreciate the question(s) as have been ask, and the answers as they have appeared. I am really curious to hear other thoughts as the thought process really is almost 180 degrees apart, coming from some astute collectors and purveyors.


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