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Bruce Day 07-26-2014 07:36 PM

You missed the photos of the wood duck, ruffed grouse , woodcock , pheasant , brace of setters and the like ?

Deer and elk were standard fare on C s only until about 1900. After that birds became the norm. Even before 1900 a significant number of C s had birds.


Coming back from bicycling across Iowa. I'll post photos again sometime.

Brian Dudley 07-26-2014 08:06 PM

The buttstock on your CHE is surely a replacement. As the checkering, cheek panels and form are not correct. The Beavertail forend is also suspect. Does it have a draw bolt or 1pc forend loop?

Bob Hayes 07-26-2014 08:27 PM

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Here's a CHE with birds I posted a few weeks ago.Gun recently acquired also.

Kevin McCormack 07-26-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 143649)
You missed the photos of the wood duck, ruffed grouse , woodcock , pheasant , brace of setters and the like ?

Deer and elk were standard fare on C s only until about 1900. After that birds became the norm. Even before 1900 a significant number of C s had birds.


Coming back from bicycling across Iowa. I'll post photos again sometime.

I missed nothing;

Deer, elk and other mammalia were common fare on C- and higher grade guns well up into the 19-teens (consider the iconic McCarty BHE 1919 pigeon/trap gun with running elk on the floorplate, and the c. 1913 AHE built for a Maine lumber baron with the sea otter floating on its back on a bed of kelp, cracking open a clam with a small rock).

If you're cycling across Iowa, better pedal fast - the national weather map shows lots of cyclonic cellular activity thereabouts! Safe home!

Mike Ide 07-27-2014 10:51 AM

LOL, Kevin, I didn't know the floorplate etching was an issue. It's the only CHE I've ever seen. Why you would put an elk on a shotgun?

Patrick, thank you for the info. The boxed set included both sets of barrels when my dad bought it over forty years ago.

I will get pics of the barrel shortly.

Mike Ide 07-27-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 143651)
The buttstock on your CHE is surely a replacement. As the checkering, cheek panels and form are not correct. The Beavertail forend is also suspect. Does it have a draw bolt or 1pc forend loop?

You'll have to tell me what to look for, especially a draw bolt, I grew up in the era of impressed checkering....

:)

Patrick Lien 07-28-2014 12:38 AM

Mike,
I think your gun is a bit of a "frankenmonster". By that I mean it is a desirable CHE that has been restocked and has had the original Acme barrels cut short from 32" to 26" and then had some 30" VHE barrels fit to the gun. I am making my assumptions based on the pictures and information that you have provided so far. Some additional pictures of the muzzle end of the barrels would help confirm this. Having said that your gun is a shooter and it is a very nice setup for ANY shooting you could think of. If you are a hunter then you have a excellent gun to go do any type of bird hunting that you could imagine. If you are a clays shooter then the 30" / 26" set will work for trap, skeet, or sporting clays. You inherited a good shooter grade Parker worth several thousand dollars. I would say your father had good taste in shotguns and if you are a bird hunter or clay shooter you should keep this gun and enjoy it just like he did.

Patrick

Bruce Day 07-28-2014 10:05 AM

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Here are two photos. The first is of a Quality GH gun with clearly chopped barrel ending, note the rib matting ends.

The next photo is of an original 1910 CHE. Note the case colors. The floor plate engraving is the most prevalent for the time, several flying birds, ducks in this instance. Other engraving themes could be dogs, various single birds, flying pheasants or even deer or elk. Deer and elk were most common to about 1900, less so after, and were carry over themes from European engravers. In the background you will see a barrel ending with uncut ends, note the unmatted ending space.

Some may feel that deer and elk scenes are incongruous for a shot gun. However, shot guns were often used with buck shot ( hence the term) for large animal hunting. My suggestion is to look at each gun individually for engraving quality. Some of the best Parker engraving can be deer scenes from the 1890's.

Enjoy your father's gun. Its value to Parker enthusiasts is diminished because of the incorrect replacement stock and other modifications, however it should be a fine use gun, as others have said. The frame size indicates a heavy barreled gun capable of heavy loads in distinction to a light upland game gun.

PS, I had taken the C apart for cleaning and have since properly oriented the screw slots. I know they were out of alignment.


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