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Phillip Carr 12-12-2013 09:21 AM

I will post pictures later today to get an opinion on condition. I know condition is everything. That said how close is the Blue Book to reality in today's Parker market?

Bruce Day 12-12-2013 09:23 AM

How close? The Parker section is written by PGCA pres. Bill Mullins from reported sales one year ago. Got a better report of sales values?

There is always anecdotal hearsay. Take the Blue Book as a strong indicator, kind of like land, horses and old Chevys.

Russ Jackson 12-12-2013 09:25 AM

Possibly one of you Gentlemen with a better memory and more knowledge than myself could post about the descriptions in the Serial# Identification book as to the late Remington guns being described as all or most all of them having ," Capped Pistol Grips " when in fact a lot of them were straight Stocked guns as is this one although the book says Capped Pistol Grip ! Seems to me years ago when I bought my first Remington Parker ,this was pointed out to me on a thread way back when ,does anyone else remember this and would you mind posting what You know about this ? If I am mistaken on what I think ,then I would appreciate the info. myself ! Thank You ; Russ

Bruce Day 12-12-2013 09:28 AM

On the IBM cards, if no grip was identified, the default entry was CPG. The IBM cards were an in house historical report , not a production build sheet.

Phillip Carr 12-12-2013 09:41 AM

Thanks for the feedback on the Blue Book and how values are figured and by who. Clearly I was not aware of this. Thanks for this information. Like my 3rd grade teacher used to tell us it's a poor day you do not learn at least one new thing.

Drew Hause 12-12-2013 09:48 AM

The 'White Line' Recoil Pad was patented by Frank Pachmayr 1-28-35 #2091010, but made by Fray-Mershon of Los Angeles. Pachmayr manufactured the pad after WWII

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Chuck Bishop 12-12-2013 09:51 AM

Bruce is correct that the IBM cards don't show grip type so the default used in the Serialization Book was pistol grip.

I have a VH built at the end of 1937 that had a white line recoil pad on it. I couldn't tell if it was original but it was partially crushed and fossilized. There was no makers name on the pad, just the typical white line spacer.

Dave Noreen 12-12-2013 10:18 AM

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A two barreled A-1S set in 28ga is owned by a major collector friend
Is this the gun C.T. "Buck" Buckman of California bought from W.O. Rowley from Dallas, Texas, for $3000 and wrote of in his book 75 Years with the Shotgun? I finally scored a copy of Buckman's book at The Vintage Cup this year.

greg conomos 12-12-2013 01:24 PM

When it comes to Parkers, condition is not everything. It's a big factor, but so is rarity, desirability, etc. We've all seen some pretty ratty Parkers bring good money just because they had really small bores or lots of engraving.

Phillip Carr 12-12-2013 04:09 PM

Actually there was 2 20 gauge VHE one Pistol grip double trigger gun, the other a straight grip single trigger. Not the best pictures but best I could get under the circumstance. Guns are no longer for sale by the owner. I may have been a little conservative on condition after looking them over. Granted screws in the wrong holes on one. I could trade my left one for the straight grip. I believe it was made November 1941.S/N 242177. What s the highest number document so far? Oh well I know who the caretaker is of these cool guns.

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