Give???:nono: The gun is choked cyl/full a combination I have grown to appreciate lately on Pheasants but this one just doesn't fit. The previous owner told me he couldn't shoot it well either. This time next year when I retire it will be the first one to go to help feather the nestegg.

Rich, I always shot that gun just fine... I don't know what's wrong with you and the former owner... :corn:

Its to small in the wrist for me. The distance from the nose of the comb to the safty isn't very long and it's just hard to hold on to.

Save your money and you can buy it next year:rotf:

All ribbing aside ,I just got back from the same cover with the new pup ...and he just pointed his first grouse, three points actually before the bird went to wing ,not shot offered unfortunately ...and the camera was at home:crying:

But talk about stylish! three corkscrew points , 12 0'clock tail ,the works ... I couldn't be happier !

That's terrific Chris! That's the reward!

Amen Dean!

don t forget the camera next time...sounds like the pup has got that pointing figured out...charlie

3 grouse is a good number.