I just got in from shooting skeet and 5 stand ,I used a 12ga VHE with 3/4 oz shot for skeet and 7/8 oz for 5 stand. Once you start using the lighter loads you won't go back to the heavy stuff, really very little difference in score and much more enjoyable. In my 20ga parkers all I shoot are 3/4 oz loads for skeet, give them a try.

If recoil is your problem, loading a proper load is the solution. Your load is unacceptable. A 7/8 or 3/4 ounce load at 1175 fps will break any birds just fine. 1250 fps is something most of us haven't loaded for years, except for competition live pigeons.

I will Give These a try! Thanks

I shoot 3/4oz in my 12ga guns - cost and recoil are why. And Pastor, you'll break [ or miss ] as many birds as you will with 7/8, 1, or 1 1/8oz of shot. Think of it this way, you'll get better patterns in the larger bore gun with less shot than you would with the same amount of shot in the smaller bore. And being a Pastor and all, you should know Hulu is a four letter word, and should not be spoken. Amen

LOL !!! That is funny! The HULU Part. I can see what you folks are saying...I have noticed my Fox 12 gauge with a 7/8 0z load and about 1150 fps PATTERNS EXCELLENT! And I shoot it as well as any...JUST REAL HEAVY... OK, I will take another look at some reloading with 3/4 oz loads for the NOT HULU! LOL Thanks for all the great info.

Low recoil and convenience are why I just order RST untralight 2 1/2" shells by the case for my vintage doubles. There's no better shell out there that I know of in terms of lethal patterns, low pressure and mild recoil to protect century old barrels and stocks from damage. My only complaint with the RSTs is that they do seem to leave significantly more fouling in the bores than standard shot shells, but a little more cleaning after shooting is a small price to pay for all the benefits they deliver. Plus, I just think there's something cool about shooting those 2 1/2" shells in an original 2 1/2" chamber. It somehow seems to add to the experience.

Ditto on the RST shells buy em! gary

RST I know about these....GREAT!! SHELLS!!!!

RST makes great shells and I shoot about 2-3 flats a year but I must reload for the volume of shooting I do. If not I would be bankrupt buying factory loads. As it is I've got all my gauges that I regularly shoot, 12,16,20,28 down to 3/4oz @ 1150 or so fps. and have not seen my scores drop. The only thing I've noticed, and in a big way, is that recoil is not in my shooting lexicon any more. I shoot alot of 20ga. Parkers and Foxes with 2.5" chambers and the 3/4oz. load in a 2 3/4'' shell is simple delightful. By the way.... what is a HULU?

Sorry for the spelling...HUGLU (CZ) so maybe it really isn't a four letter word...LOL 28ga and a 16....so far they shoot as well as I can!!! LOL I do thank ya-All for the great info. and what a great group to be a member of.