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Rick Roemer 05-03-2020 11:56 AM

Ok thanks. As for the shells - what would you suggest? Is it not ok to shoot 3" in this gun? The tungsten matrix are advertised as safe for fixed choke guns - like bismuth. I honestly have only shot maybe 10 or so through it anyhow.
And the other shells are lead (the one that I used yesterday)

James L. Martin 05-03-2020 12:10 PM

I use those Winchester Longbeards. in a Remington 11-87 ,the shot load is encased in some sort of epoxy, you can cut open the shell and the shot will be one solid lump, I know that when fired it becomes a powder and buffer. I would shoot 1 1/2 oz max at 1200 fps or less. If that meant 2 3/4 " shells so be it. My self I would use 1 1/4 oz of 5 or 6 copper or nickel.

Greg Baehman 05-03-2020 12:14 PM

Another possible explanation could be the slight bulge and barrel split may have been caused by a phenomenon termed momentum -- too big of a load at too much velocity through too tight of a choke. These same catastrophic results could have occurred regardless whether lead, bismuth or tungsten loads were used.

Bill Murphy 05-03-2020 12:22 PM

First thing I would do after a blow up is to take the rest of the box of shells, weigh each one individually after assigning a number to each shell. Next, I would dismantle every other shell and weigh each component, leaving every other shell intact. I would keep all loads of powder in plastic bags for testing, to see if the powder is the powder that is supposed to be in that load. Next, I would take two of the shells and send them to Tom Armbrust for pressure testing. However, your blowup seems to be an obstruction.

Bill Murphy 05-03-2020 12:26 PM

How far back in your barrels is it to perfect, undamaged barrel?

charlie cleveland 05-03-2020 12:47 PM

I think a good welder could fix those barrels to be shootable again...might not be easy to hide the weld completely...and you can cut the barrels and have screw in chokes put in....some times these things just happen no way of knowing what went wrong... anyway good luck on the fix....charlie

Rick Roemer 05-03-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 301797)
How far back in your barrels is it to perfect, undamaged barrel?

I think you could cut it to 29", but probably best to go to 28". I suppose Briley would be the place?

Rick Roemer 05-03-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 301800)
I think a good welder could fix those barrels to be shootable again...might not be easy to hide the weld completely...and you can cut the barrels and have screw in chokes put in....some times these things just happen no way of knowing what went wrong... anyway good luck on the fix....charlie

Do you recommend anyone as a welder? Didn't really think this was possible. Looks don't really concern me as much on this gun.

Rick Roemer 05-03-2020 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Baehman (Post 301794)
Another possible explanation could be the slight bulge and barrel split may have been caused by a phenomenon termed momentum -- too big of a load at too much velocity through too tight of a choke. These same catastrophic results could have occurred regardless whether lead, bismuth or tungsten loads were used.

Yeah I wondered about this - just never thought of it prior to this accident. Choke in that barrel was .032.

Steve Huffman 05-03-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Roemer (Post 301804)
Do you recommend anyone as a welder? Didn't really think this was possible. Looks don't really concern me as much on this gun.

I don't think any good welder would want to put his name on a project like that ! If you know what I mean JMHO !


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