I killed two nice Canadas last evening with a wonderful but well used EH. RST Bismuth #2s hammered them. One was about 45 yds, the other about 35. They just folded up and were DOA upon impact. Unfortunately it was not a double. I was very lucky on both shots. Now if I can just figure out how to post pictures.

congratulations jeff the short ten is one fine shooting gun...in my opinion cannot be beat....charlie

I got another pair yesterday (not a double). One of them had a band! Bands are a big deal around here.

broke the ice turkey hunting my 3 frame DH 10

Hey Legh....

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This is Legh with his nice longbeard last week on the opening day of the Vermont Fall Turkey Season.

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Legh, which pup is that in your avatar picture? Is that Earl of Coronation, Grace's sire?





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Just a friendly reminder that we are having a 10 ga Parker vs Lc Smith five stand challenge at the Spring Southern side by side this coming April. It will be on the Wednesday of the southern

I didn’t watch you guys shoot the 5 stand this spring . “Generally” what distance are those targets ? If I’m not mistaken Patton said something about them being further then those on the Sporting Clays course ?

yes it is Earl of Coronation...Graces sire

Will the 10 gauge challenge have hammer/hammerless categories?

Ed,

NO non of the side challenge events do. They are open to both hammer and hammerless Parkers and LC Smiths.
This is true for the 16 ga, 20 ga and the new 10 ga events for the five stand challenges.

Again only for Parkers and LC Smiths.

All my best,

John

We'll be there!!!!!! Looking forward to it.

I don't have a Parker short ten (at least not yet) but I do have three Remington short ten hammer guns. Two of them are 2 5/8" and one is 2 7/8".

Required Parker content: the only 10 gauge all-brass shells I can find are the Parker reproductions from Track of the Wolf. I bought some to make black powder shells, but they aren't cheap - over $7 each. Ouch! Wish there was a less expensive source.

This is a great, long-lasting thread!

jack you can buy plastic hulls 3 1/2 10 ga hulls cut them to lengtgh desired and use smokeless powder...pete lester has lots of loads listed we all use on this site...but if black powder is your game them brass shells are the way to go....charlie

Loading some now for Pheasants--10ga under lifter!!

If you don't want to use brass you can use paper hulls. Federal and Fiocchi make nice paper shells. Then you don't need to deal with plastic fouling in your bbls. Use fiber/card wads too and the bbls will be cleaner.

In 10 gauge? that would be great

My bad, I was thinking 12g. If I loaded BP for 10g I'd try to find paper hulls or use plastic hulls with fiber/card wads. If they were used hulls, I'd throw them out after using it as the heat from the BP may make the plastic deteriorate.

Ballistic Products is selling plastic, new, primed Federal 10g hulls that can be cut down.

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Fe...tinfo/0621035/




Review:
Tough hulls! 7/10/2014
Im running black powder thru these hulls. I made a handloading set and reload them with steel and lead. 95-100 gr. 2F bp. I have 5 reloads and the hulls still have at least 3 more left. Great, great product
- Josephine Sullivan, ME

The one time I used my 10ga hammer gun to do my "outhouse shoot" I found that I got small holes burned in both once-used and reloaded hulls. Black powder and plastic hulls are a bad idea unless you only intend to use them once.

Bp and plastic don't mix.

Thank's to Federal 12 papers and imported Cheddites 12 & 16 I use a bunch of black powder loads. Load once and toss as the powder fry's the insides of the hulls. For the 10"s I use plastic hulls as no paper hulls are available. I have not had any bad experiences with melted plastic because I use a fiber wad column. If one uses a plastic wad it will melt and coat the barrels like a snake shedding it's skin. The heat generated from the burning powder acts on the wad base and melts them depositing plastic along the barrels. Load only card and fiber in black powder loads. It really is great fun with black powder loads and they are just as effective as modern powders on clay's or birds. Also a big plus on the wow factor when the smoke billow's and fire belches from your muzzles. Black powder clean up is not a real chore and is accomplished in a very shot time when you set up properly for cleaning. Also GOEX Old Eynsford burns cleaner and the fouling is lighter than more traditional older manufactured powders.
Easily shoot a 50 round clays course without having to run cleaning patches through the tubes using this powder.

For 50 years I’ve cleaned black powder residue exactly the same as nitro except I use Windex as a cleaner. Just three or four patches wetted and then dry. Naysayers there will be but it works for me.

When I was eat up with leveritus Mike Venturino used to claim using Windex was great in BP applications however he stipulated that you use the Windex based on Apple vinegar I believe it was rather then the regular stuff . Has that been your experience as well ?

Not at all. I find the current off the shelf Windex to be just as good as it ever was. Makes cleaning ever bit as easy as cleaning nitro. Hint: wear latex gloves, BP fouling on the hands does not make the wife very happy even after a thorough scrubbing.

My statement wasn't in reference to clean up But rather to burn through of the hulls in 10ga and especially 8ga. One shot per case gets expensive when you are buying 8ga.

I generally put up 10 gauge black powder loads on hulls that have been loaded 5 or 6 times so it makes the shoot and toss a bit less painful. Same with Federal paper 12's. For 16's I roll crimp and use those at a event just for the experience of shooting the best loads possible for "Old Time" shooting. I just feel that a good run on clays or a great day in the fields are worth the added expense by using real powder.

its been a slow very wet season so far - but I did get the Ithaca Super 10 out for a rainy day hunt- I like this gun-

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...ictureid=11308

love that name super ten....makes me think the gun is magicall....charlie

Somehow missed this thread. You can add me to the list.

I'm shooting an L.C. Smith Baker of Baker Guns, Syracuse short 10. This is one of the models that uses the front trigger to unlock and open the breech. I believe mine is a Quality B and has Damascus barrels.

https://i.imgur.com/eHkkrwG.jpg

looks like a early lc smith i have a lc smith in short ten also i need to get out more...charlie

Thanks Charlie. I believe it was made somewhere between 1878-1880. Serial number is just over 7800 which should put it near that time frame. I acquired it through a fellow hunter safety instructor who had it stowed away without ever firing it. She is in good shape especially considering that she's 140 years old. I sent her off to Kody Kearcher in Oregon for an inspection. Otherwise she hasn't been restored or modified. 32 inch barrels and tips the scales at ten pounds. A joy to shoot but I'm a little slow at cocking those hammers on the flush.

Open the action and cock the hammers.
On the flush simply close the action as you bring the gun up.

Of course, some guns don’t allow you to do that.




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Beautiful gun, handsome dog, great photo. I love seeing member photos!!

Thanks for the photo!! Gosh, the tales that gun could tell...

I lost count on how many I have

mills that is a great answer......LOST COUNT........charlie

Maybe if I buy a few more I can figure it out.

Really, I got two this year that are great additions to the gun safe

I have the same gun. Where can one find ammo for this gun?? Thanks in advance.