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I now own Money's 87238 and she's a great gun with some neat history. Sits right next to the Kimble guns. John

John, Was that the gun I shot at the Southern a couple of years ago? That is a great gun!

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Originally Posted by Kevin McCormack (Post 88095)

Are you kidding? Nothing like our pigeon shoots in the 1870's, '80's and '90's existed in Russia unless you were on the Czar/Tzar's 'A' List, or knew someone who was who was willing to bring you as a guest! Accordingly, when the great unwashed got tired of not being able to even muster a decent handicap, they took over the country! So far as guns, gauges, barrel lengths, chokes and actions went, it was 'best Bests', 12, 32", tight and tighter, and either SxS or O/U (no Cosmis or A-5 Special for Pigeons, please!).

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Kidding? --- Nope!

Your commentary was very interesting though - It's almost like you were actually there in Russia during the 1870's, '80's and '90's!

As for "Cosmis", Sounds like a killer CheeseSteak Deli at the corner of 8th & Dickinson in Philadelphia!

http://www.cosmideli.com/welcome.html

CSL
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A bump to the top for an interesting thread.

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Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 88109)

I now own Money's 87238 and she's a great gun with some neat history. Sits right next to the Kimble guns. John

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Capt. Money owned several interesting guns throughout his shooting career. Below are a couple images from a rare old photo of a club shoot showing a relaxed A.W. Money posing with several of his contemporaries. Those familiar with some of the early 1900's shooting legends will probably recognize the faces of Marshall, Elliot, Gilbert, and Heikes, also in the photo...

Best, CSL
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http://www.webpak.net/~cslien/1MoneyShootA.jpg
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http://www.webpak.net/~cslien/1MoneyShootB.jpg
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That image may have been taken at one of the "E.C." Cup events
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL5617011.pdf
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL5617012.pdf

The first "E. C." Inanimate Target Championship Cup was held May 5-8, 1896, at the Guttenburg racetrack, above Weehawken, N. J. The match consisted of 100 targets, unknown angles, from known traps; 100 targets, unknown traps and known angles (commonly called expert rules - At expert rules, one man up in the centre of five traps, pulled unknown, according to an indicator); and 50 pair of doubles.
Fred Gilbert won with a score of 266. Fulford and Elliott were next with 261, while Heikes came in third with 258
http://www.la84foundation.org/Sports.../SL2708020.pdf

By golly they did have some Pigeon shoots in Russia during the early 1900's, not exactly the same live-bird events as those held here in America, but the Russians were certainly shoot'n a few Pigeons in 1915... I ran across this article a few nights ago while doing some Parker research... Written by P.B. Deane, an American in Russia on war related business, who also found time to visit and shoot at the Petrograd "Imperial Gun Club" in June of 1915... The following 2 images below show how Deane's story appeared in the June 1916 issue of the American Shooter Magazine...

Best, CSL
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http://www.webpak.net/~cslien/1RussianShootA.jpg
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http://www.webpak.net/~cslien/1RussianShootB.jpg
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Really good stuff Christopher. Thank you for sharing.