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Drew Hause 09-20-2010 01:01 PM

Mike: Tom Armbrust tried to pressure test some vintage loads a few years ago. The results (probably more primer deterioration than powder) were so inconsistent as to be meaningless. He did find a trend toward increased pressure, felt to be from hardening of the old fiber wads and paper cases.

In a 1927 Western Cartridge Co. flyer "Super-X The Long Range Load" by Capt. Chas. Askins, the 12 gauge duck load is described as 38 1/2 grains or 3 1/2 dram with a muzzle velocity of 1400 fps (modern numbers are measured 3 feet from the muzzle) and a breech pressure of 3 3/4 tons or just below the current SAAMI 12g maximum of 11,500 psi.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../384733222.jpg

Austin W Hogan 09-20-2010 07:23 PM

Ballistic Pendulum
 
Speeds were measured with what is known as a ballistic pendulum. The shot was fired into a bullet trap on the bottom of a pendulum. The speed was deduced from the amount the pendulum rose.
I wish I had my old freshman physics textbook; it had a picture of a ballistic pendulum, and the math outline. It was a really good excercise to convert the potential energy of the pendulum back the the kinetic energy of the projectile, and then the speed of the projectile.

Best, Austin

Mike Stahle 09-20-2010 08:00 PM

Thanks Austin,

Very cool info. I learned something today :)

Dave Suponski 09-20-2010 08:47 PM

Check this out....guy's

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...p5BgO6SGhyH_mA

Mike Stahle 09-22-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski (Post 24475)

Thanks Dave, very interesting :)

Mike Stahle 09-22-2010 07:54 PM

This will be my next pressure test load. This will be my tree-rat load if my baby and I survive. :cool:
BTW: I never did hear back from Federal, so much for the "we will reply within two to three days" :whistle:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...tshells1LR.jpg

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...edBarrels9.jpg

calvin humburg 09-22-2010 09:13 PM

Nice gun Mike!!!!Like the color of the wood. I'm askin santa 4 a GH 16 with trunips and a 1 frame. ch that was interesting Dave I wood of got a good grade in that class same as spelling. :-)

Bruce Day 09-23-2010 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Stahle (Post 24600)
This will be my next pressure test load. This will be my tree-rat load if my baby and I survive.


1. Write if you survive.

2. There is no turning back once you start living life on the edge.

3. Join the PGCA.

4. By the way, I've shoot cases of those in Damascus and fluid steel guns for hunting. In 12ga 1 1/8oz, in 6's that is my standard pheasant and prairie grouse load except for 16ga and then I buy the Fed 1oz for that.

Mike Stahle 10-23-2010 09:01 PM

“1. Write if you survive.”

I survived Bruce. :)

Still have 10 fingers, no lumps or bumps in the barrels.
No Damascus fragments imbedded in my head.
4 shots, 4 very dead tree-rats this afternoon.
This is my favorite load to date.
Recoil is very tolerable with this load in the #1 frame GH.


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...rGH12ga1LR.jpg

Bruce Day 10-24-2010 11:50 AM

Truly a miracle. Next thing you'll be trying the Fed Game Shoc 1 1/8oz loads.

Don't let anybody know. You'll have the low pressure police after you.


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