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rickey hughes
01-30-2013, 09:41 AM
I am looking at a 100% restored 30 inch barrel 12 bore VHE. The restoration is first rate. It is stocked english straight grip in upgarde wood. Work is first rate as is the checering back to original VH pattern. Case colored and rust lued barrels. Again firts class job.All action and stock screws are timed and perfect. Bored excellent barreks excellent. It looks like brand new gun. Chokes and chambers untouched. I do not know who the restorer is at this time. What say you on price range for this gun?

edgarspencer
01-30-2013, 10:18 AM
Getting the colors of the finishes, on stock, frame and barrels, is the key to a proper restoration. Post some pictures if you can.

rickey hughes
01-30-2013, 10:29 AM
i left off it is on 1 1/2 frame

I want to get some photos and will post

Brian Dudley
01-30-2013, 10:45 AM
Typically a fully restored gun that is correctly done will rate as "very good" condition in a blue book.

rickey hughes
01-30-2013, 10:59 AM
Brian that is good info on the Blue Book thanks so much for responding

Ed Blake
01-30-2013, 01:19 PM
What is the asking price?

rickey hughes
01-30-2013, 01:30 PM
$2200

Brian Dudley
01-30-2013, 01:55 PM
If the restoration is done very well and correctly, that is a reasonable price.

paul stafford jr
01-30-2013, 05:49 PM
a re-stock and refinish will cost 3,000 or more by most of the best gunsmiths. if the work is done correctly this sounds like a deal. if not you will still have a good looking gun that will be good shooter. post some pictures there are lots of members that can help you with the quality of the work.

Fred Preston
01-30-2013, 05:58 PM
I have an Oscar Gaddy GH that cost me nearly that a few years ago.

rickey hughes
02-01-2013, 06:12 AM
looks like $2400 is going to buy this. Maybe a little to strong in price?

Mark Ouellette
02-01-2013, 06:39 AM
Rickey,

An high condition original gun is always worth more than the best accurate restoration. By accurate I mean that it would take a close look by someone who knows Parkers, I mean really knows Parkers to identify that the gun is a restoration.

What is an accurate restoration? That means "correct to the period" of which the gun was made. Parker case colors changed over the years. If the case colors are not of the correct period, or if the wood isn't accurately shaped as Parker would have done for this gun, or if the checkering isn't perfect for the grade and year, or if someone hot blued the barrels then it is lilkely not worth the price. If it is indeed an accurate restoration, and think that you will love owning and shooting the gun then the price may not too high.

I have guns restored but try to stay at least even money on them. I shoot these restorations on the range, in the field, and on the duck boat. I also have a few high condition safe queens that don't get dragged into the duck boat. If I scratch a restoration it goes back to the gunsmith for repair. If I scratch a high condition original gun something has been lost forever.

A final note to this early morning rambling. Be careful in buying high conditional original guns. They may indeed have a few expertly executed repairs or partial refinish. It takes a expert to identify some repairs. That's where a trusted PGCA friend can mentor you. Please notice that I post my state of residence in my Member Info on the left side of the computer screen. That way other members who are close by are more likely to contact me to come shoot and hunt with them.

Good luck to you!
Mark

Gary Carmichael Sr
02-01-2013, 07:21 AM
Mark, Will PM you today with the info we talked about the other day, Gary

Mark Ouellette
02-01-2013, 07:27 AM
Gary,

I am "standing by" in military parlance.

Mark

Chuck Bishop
02-01-2013, 07:58 AM
Just as a reference, I attended a firearms auction a few weeks ago. They had a DelGrego restored 12ga VH on a 1 1/2 frame plus the shipping box DelGrego shipped the gun in. This gun looked like it just came out of the DelGrego shop so everything was mint. The gun sold for $2700 with a buyers premium of 10% and sales tax of 6% so the total was $3,132. I dropped out at $2200. It was a lovely gun but not worth the total price. IMHO

Ed Blake
02-01-2013, 08:46 AM
If the gun is as you say, buy it for $2,400. And who cares if it's a redo. Where else will you find that quality for that kind of money?

rickey hughes
02-02-2013, 08:01 AM
well i WENT TO BUY GUN AND IT WAS GONE IT WENT FOR $2600 OH WELL THERE IS A 28 INCH DHE 12 gauge. metal and barrels are perfect all action screws perfect. guns has been restocked that is not perfect. they want $2000 for it. probably buy it for $1700- $1800

Andy Kelley
02-02-2013, 08:35 AM
Rick the DH might be a better deal than the VH you were not able to acquire. Sometimes things happen for a reason.In the fall I missed out on a VH with two barrels ,two forends but had a broken stock.. price was a whopping $500 but a few weeks later was able to get a nice DH . Good luck! Andy

rickey hughes
02-02-2013, 08:51 AM
Yes the DHE has perfect metal and barrels. When I say perfect I mean no dings dents and the action srews are timed and untouched. engraving is sharp. no case color and bluing is thin in spots. I think it had been restocked. mediocre job at best but this is reflected by asking price. I think the gun can be bought for $1700-$1800. 28 inch barrels

edgarspencer
02-02-2013, 10:13 AM
Check the DHE serial number against the book. Prices seems pretty low unless the barrels were chopped or some other serious modification. Could just be a good deal too.

Mark Ouellette
02-02-2013, 10:38 AM
I think it had been restocked. mediocre job at best but this is reflected by asking price.

Edgar,

Yes, Rickey should check the DHE against the book. Rickey did however state that the DHE has what appears to be a mediocre restock. The price may even be too high if the wood to metal fit has gaps.

Mark

rickey hughes
02-02-2013, 06:50 PM
the frame and barrels are perfect. Gun specs o 28 inch barrels. the wood to metal fit on restock is not as tight as one would want to see. original forend. butt has been replaced though. Nice wood not proud.

David Noble
02-06-2013, 09:47 PM
Rickey, it is ultimately your decision. If you buy it and fall in love with it you will think you made the right decision, but if you buy it and then aren't really pleased with it you will blame us for giving you bad instruction. Don't be in a rush, there are a lot of nice Parker's out there and some at good deal prices. Wait for the one YOU feel is right for you.