Titanic ??

[steveulrich]

I posted this already in introductions. Since I am new I am having a time learning the site. I apologize in advance if moving this here is wrong.

I have a GH made in 1890. The barrels are upgraded to titanic steel with engraving and a matching serial number. The first question is, does anyone know why the barrels have ML after the number? 617xxML.
Thanks

[Rick Losey]

can you post a picture

Is the "ML" the same size and spacing as the serial number? or just two characters in the same area

[steveulrich]

I will get it out and try to post a pic. It does appear to be ''part of the number to me"

[steveulrich]

Here is the pic of the ML on the serial. 61756 ML.
These Titanic barrels are 26 1/4''. Wondering if they are cut. From looking at the muzzle my guess is no. What do the experts say.
I have a lot of trouble loading pictures on here. I will add some more when I can. I am wanting to find out what a fair asking price is on this gun so I can decide weather to hunt it or sell it. It is a beauty of an upgraded refinished gun.
So I believe the collector value is moderate.
If any one wants more pictures emailing is likely better.

[Steve Huffman]

On the left side of the barrel lug should be a number is it the same as the one in the picture ?and is there a D on the barrel flat these barrel may hve been sleeved

[steveulrich]

On the barrel flat the number/letter was polished away if there was one. I am not sure what the left side of the lug is but will look over more carfully.
I am trying to post pictures one at a time but when I submit the pic is not showing up. Is there a delay?

[steveulrich]

Titanic steel pic. the only other marks on the barrels is 33 and W K . Also there is a crazy scrolly G/C and other slash marks mingled together (unphotographable). I guess I better spring for a letter.

[Steve Huffman]

Hold up on the letter ! Let the knowledgeable persons chime in and save you some money.

[Dave Suponski]

Steve, After looking at your photos my opinion is that these are replacement barrels. The rib is not a Parker Brothers rib as the matting and Titanic fonts are wrong.

[Rick Losey]

and have you ever seen a Parker serial number on the tube like that?

the ML looks to be from a different set of stamps - slightly larger

[steveulrich]

went to town to post some pics.

[steveulrich]

pics

[Rick Losey]

that PV under the lion on the watertable is a Belgium proof mark

as is the mark under the PV - that is for the lug/locking system inspection

the T under the star is an inspector mark
T is either

Laenen Clement from 1952 to1986

or
Vostes Gustave from 1974 to 1988



certainly a sign of aftermarket work

[Steve Huffman]

Can you give us a nice picture of the bottom side of the barrels like the ones you just posted . That is a nice looking gun and its been out of this country . OOPs my bad I guess you did !

[steveulrich]

Thanks everyone.
Keep it coming.
Not that it has much to do with it but I had never heard of a ''waxed'' gun before reading this site. Apparently this one had been waxed until last year when I removed it with rubbing alcohol.
Not sure this is what a Parker guy likes to see but it was eye popping.

[steveulrich]

Could you post or send a pic of the ''proper'' rib/titanic? Aftermarket and proud of it? Or aftermarket and counterfeit? Seems the ML would be a giveaway for a counterfeiter.