Single Trigger Problem

[Tony Guccioni]

My preferred 'smith is slowly working his way through solving some trigger problems with one of my ST 12 ga. Repros.
He has an exploded diagram of a Parker Double trigger gun but would sure like to have a look at a parts view for a single trigger gun.
Could someone kindly point me in the right direction to secure such; a PM would indeed be appreciated.

Many Thanks, TONY.

[Bob Jurewicz]

If this is his first dive into a Repro single trigger it could be a disaster.
Bob Jurewicz

[Eric Eis]

Send it to Dan May. If your smith is looking at diagrams he should not even be considered to work on it !

[Richard Skeuse]

Chris Maest from Clay target sports Princeton,NJ can fix the problem also. His number is 809-821-9358

[Harry Collins]

Many problems on the old single triggers were caused by improper tension on the two tang screws. The one under the trigger guard bow and the one under the top lever. If those two are indexed it will correct most faults.

[Tony Guccioni]

If this is his first dive into a Repro single trigger it could be a disaster.
Bob Jurewicz

He is very experienced and his expertise and knowledge is held in high regard by many ...

However, I've not seen him so confounded before.


Sadly, I suspect this little Repro may indeed be his 'Achilles heel'.

The parts diagram for a ST gun would ease his 'pain' and solve a couple of little mysteries for him.
I'd like to assist him in any way I can.

I'm in absolutely no hurry and accept that the gun may eventually need to go on a holiday with someone else.

Thanks, TONY.

[Eric Eis]

He is very experienced and his expertise and knowledge is held in high regard by many ...

However, I've not seen him so confounded before.


Sadly, I suspect this little Repro may indeed be his 'Achilles heel'.

The parts diagram for a ST gun would ease his 'pain' and solve a couple of little mysteries for him.
I'd like to assist him in any way I can.

I'm in absolutely no hurry and accept that the gun may eventually need to go on a holiday with someone else.

Thanks, TONY.

Tony, send it to someone who knows these triggers, don't be a "test case" as you will not like the outcome. Trust me on this, been there done that...:banghead:

[Dave Suponski]

Yup..Me too. Eric gives good advise.

[Tony Guccioni]

Reading you ( all ) ... loud and clear.

Thanks.

[Don Miller]

Do many of you have problems with the single trigger? I was considering buying my first Parker Repro 28ga but don't want to send it across country should there be trigger issues.

[Bob Jurewicz]

Don,
I have had a few single trigger Repros and seen and heard of many others that functioned flawlessly. Most often we hear of the ones that act up.
Bob Jurewicz

[Dean Romig]

Not to take away from Dan May but Richard Skeuse has given good advice as well. After all, it was his family that facilitated the production of the "Parker Reproduction by Winchester".

[Eric Eis]

Do many of you have problems with the single trigger? I was considering buying my first Parker Repro 28ga but don't want to send it across country should there be trigger issues.

I only have two repro's and I have not had any problems with the single trigger (knock on wood :) )

[Eric Eis]

Not to take away from Dan May but Richard Skeuse has given good advice as well. After all, it was his family that facilitated the production of the "Parker Reproduction by Winchester".

I agree with Dean, the man that Richard recommended I did not know about (but I did write his name down :rolleyes: just in case) but he should know since it was his family that produced the repro's

[Bill Murphy]

Dean and Eric, Chris Maest was a Krieghoff factory gunsmith who has worked on my Krieghoffs. He is now a Krieghoff dealer and still works on them. I suspect that Chris worked with the Skeuse family as a troubleshooter and parts (especially barrel) installer during the early days of Repro production. Chris is the proprietor of Clay Target Sports in Princeton, New Jersey. He has a website, but don't look for references to Parker Repros on the site.

[Daryl Corona]

I've also had dealings with Chris and he is a top notch guy.

[Peter Clark]

Do many of you have problems with the single trigger? I was considering buying my first Parker Repro 28ga but don't want to send it across country should there be trigger issues.

We have 3 repros, all ST, and the only problem was with son Wyatt on the 20 or 28 doubling, I don't remember which. Guns had been apart for Brad B's work so it wasn't an old grease issue. We finally figured it was Wyatt's enormous gloves used for winter league (it gets mighty cold here). It seems they filled up the trigger guard enough to cause the second barrel to go off almost simultaneously with the first. No problem with the gloves removed, except for cold hands. He switched to slimmer gloves and the problem went away.
-plc-

[John Farrell]

Classic Gunstocks bought out the Miller Single Trigger Company from Doug Turnbull. They may be the place to start. Or, you might try Larry Del Grego in Ilion, NY.

I think the repro single trigger is a copy of the Parker Bros single trigger which was developed in house by PB. Larry Del Grego, the prince of Parker repairs, just might be able to get it done. 315-894-8754.

It wouldn't hurt to talk to Larry and ask. I don't know how knowledgeable the CG people would be with non Miller triggers.

You might also contact Doug (?) Skeuse at Reagent Chemical Company, a division of White Flyer targets. He was the lead guy in making the repro in 1983. He might have the design schematics for the trigger.

[Eric Eis]

Chris Maest from Clay target sports Princeton,NJ can fix the problem also. His number is 809-821-9358

John, Richard is the son of the founder of the Parker Repros, so I would think he would be able to steer someone to the correct smith.

[Greg Baehman]

Last I heard the Del Gregos were declining to work on Repros, have things changed?

[Dave Suponski]

Here's an interesting story.....I was sittin on "The Stool" at Abe Chabers awhile back when my Repro was there getting it single trigger fixed and we were discussing single triggers in general. Now Abe just loves sharing his vast knowledge of gunsmithing and everytime I drop off a gun I am in for a lesson. And its fine with me..

Anyway we were talking about single triggers and he told me that there are people that cannot shoot a single triggered gun. I guess I looked at him kinda funny because he told the story of a customer that sold an english gun to a friend.

Now the seller had owned this gun for years and shot it without a problem. When the new owner shot the gun it started to double. Long story short. The gun came to Abe and after his inspection nothing was found wrong.

The seller,new owner and Abe went to the skeet field with the gun. Abe and the original owner both shot a round with it and the gun performed perfectly. The new owner shoot a round with the gun and it doubled three times.

Abe explained to me that the function of the inertia blocks for the barrel selector were there to control the involuntary trigger pull that occurs on recoil of the first barrel being fired.

He went on to explain that he has seen this happen in a few instances where the shooters natural reaction was quicker than the trigger.

Maybe this is why Charles King told Wilber Parker that he could make any single trigger double.

Food for thought.....

[Dean Romig]

So Dave, that is very interesting and informative and it all seems quite reasonable, but back to your first paragraph.... what was the outcome of Abe's inspection of your single trigger problem?

[Dave Suponski]

Dean the surfaces of the inertia blocks where they bore against each other were not finished to a high enough polish. Abe lapped them to a polished surface and the gun has been flawless ever since. There is no time in the action of a single trigger for any delay. The mechanism must function perfectly every time of the gun balks or doubles.

[Tony Guccioni]

Abe explained to me that the function of the inertia blocks for the barrel selector were there to control the involuntary trigger pull that occurs on recoil of the first barrel being fired.



This little tidit holds supreme relevance for me at this moment in time, regarding 'the things I ask'.

Actually, it's all good ... a veritable treasure trove of information.

Many thanks fellas.

( my other 12 Ga. Repro performs without fault.
It's good to have another gun for the sake of comparison. )

[Chuck Heald]

Thinking about it, I figure it's time to take my Repro apart and clean the innards. I don't want to wait for a problem caused by debris and coagulated oil.