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Tom Carter
12-23-2012, 01:16 PM
More For Dog Lovers.

Ed Blake
12-23-2012, 02:06 PM
Tom, I did not know you are such an old softy.

David Dwyer
12-23-2012, 03:26 PM
He's not!!!

Tom Carter
12-23-2012, 06:47 PM
Ed, When you get my age most of the roughness has worn off. In my opinion dogs are the best people in the world. Cheers, Tom

Dennis V. Nix
12-24-2012, 12:45 AM
I love those photos especially the 3rd one. Thanks for posting them.

Rich Anderson
12-25-2012, 10:43 AM
I'm WAY past the baby stage but am posturing for a new bird dog by next fall.

Tom Carter
12-25-2012, 03:55 PM
Hi Rich, What breed are you thinking about? Cheers, Tom

Rich Anderson
12-26-2012, 08:25 AM
I am and always will be a big fan of the GSP. A very good friend raises Llewellin setters and will breed Ella a wonderfull female to his sons male Duke. I know both dogs and have hunted over them many times.

My wife is adamant about no more dogs as we have three now, two of which are over 12 and one of them is an insulin dependent diabetic. This is a rather covert move as he is willing to get the dog started and present it to me for my Birthday which is the end of October.

I guess the long anser to your question is the dog will be a Llewellin Setter sex yet to be determined.

Eric Eis
12-26-2012, 09:14 AM
I am and always will be a big fan of the GSP. A very good friend raises Llewellin setters and will breed Ella a wonderfull female to his sons male Duke. I know both dogs and have hunted over them many times.

My wife is adamant about no more dogs as we have three now, two of which are over 12 and one of them is an insulin dependent diabetic. This is a rather covert move as he is willing to get the dog started and present it to me for my Birthday which is the end of October.

I guess the long anser to your question is the dog will be a Llewellin Setter sex yet to be determined.

He is going over to the darkside.....:) Rich I probably should do the same.

Russ Jackson
12-26-2012, 09:53 AM
Rich ,, " BIRTHDAY " You are a sly Rascal :) ,Wish I had thought of it ! My wife and I can't agree on when our next Pup should move in ,ever since our Maggie had to be put down ,my Wife says the heart ache is too much for her to deal with any more and wants no more Dogs ! Chip is getting on ,he will soon be 13 years old and really has slowed down . I can't imagine not having a Bird Dog but that appears to be the way I am heading ! My Dear Wife never says a word about Guns I purchase ,Austin Healeys , Mounted Deer Heads ,Etc. Etc. Etc. but she really doesn't want another Dog ! Imagine life without Pointing Dogs and sitting for countless hours in a tree stand hunting Deer !

Rich Anderson
12-26-2012, 10:04 AM
Russ I know exactly what your going through. Gunners empty chair still brings tears to my eyes. I can't imagine life without a bird dog. Daisy is 7 and while she hasn't slowed down it's time for a new recruit and 4 is a bit much so I'm willing to wait for the passing of another one befor I bring in a new dog.
My wife will be PISSED to say the least but I figure it's better to ask forgiveness than permission especially in this instance.

Daryl Corona
12-26-2012, 10:07 AM
............:eek: Oh my, no dog?

Harold Lee Pickens
12-28-2012, 11:54 AM
Hey, Rich. When is that litter of setters due? I am thinking of getting another setter. Old Speck died last summer, she was one hell of a dog. My male Shiner, is 11 today- still hunting well, but he is 11. Betty will be 7 in May, and is generally a joy to hunt with-just like her mother Speck. I have thought about breeding Shiner to Betty--that would be a father-to-daughter breeding, but what the hell-I do live in West Virginia! It would be easier to just buy a pup than produce and raise a litter myself.

Rich Anderson
12-28-2012, 04:31 PM
Harold the couple is still just dateing. I can find out what the proposed breed date is and let you know. These are real nice setters.

Daryl Corona
12-28-2012, 08:23 PM
Nice job on the avatar Rich.

Harold Lee Pickens
12-29-2012, 12:16 PM
Rich', Ithink you will like a setter, but they are a little highr maintanence than GSP's because of their coat. My preferance has always been to blck and white dogs, and females over males. We just got another 6" of snow this morning on top of the 4" of snow then freezing rain that came on Wed, so bird hunting is kind of shut down. Went to an Eagle scout award ceremcony last night for my friend Terry's son Trent---you met Terry at the bar in Channing when we had dinner. His other son AJ, is also an Eagle scout and now in the Air Fo rce Academy. Both of those boys can shoot grouse with the best of us--they have a setter that I gave them as a gift out of my last litter 7 years ago.

Rich Anderson
12-29-2012, 12:40 PM
I'm impressed with the way these dogs hunt and are very mild mannered compared to Daisy who is rather high strung. The long hair is a downside when i have had shorthairs for the last 20 years. I'm willing to give one a try if it all works according to plan.

Rick Losey
12-29-2012, 12:51 PM
back in the 70's - a guy I worked with had a trial breed setter, his father in law had a Ryman setter. I loved the big old style dog, and would hunt more with him than the other dog. The older gentleman was at the house one day with his dog. My then wife ( not to be confused with the angel I married later ) saw the dog and asked "does it shed".

My friend's father in law gave her a puzzled look and said " you're going to run a vaccum anyway, aren't you"

:biglaugh:

Rich Anderson
12-29-2012, 01:44 PM
I think I would have liked your friends father. My GSP's all shed, and yes the wife runs the vaccum.

John Farrell
12-29-2012, 02:53 PM
"I think we are drawn to dogs because they are the uninhibited creatures we might be if we weren't certain we knew better". George Bird Evans 1906-1998

I visited GBE at Old Hemlock in June 1997 and spent a wonderful day with him and Kay. We talked on all sorts of subjects, mostly about the English Setters he had been breeding for so many years. GBE and Kay were fine people and the world of bird dogs is short two friends that truly loved their avocations.

The photo is a print of the only known watercolor produced for the market by GBE. I believe the dog, Tony's Mayhawk Speck, was his first bird dog in 1931. The print provenance is somewhat murky, and once in a while I doubt the veracity of those that offered them for sale. But, I'm glad I own it and the 22 books written by GBE over the years.

Rick Losey
12-29-2012, 06:50 PM
Speck was (as I understand The upland Shooting Life) George's father's dog, the first setter he hunted over.

There seems to be an unknown number of that print that actually survived, there were 750 copies of the Tony's Mayhawk Speck print printed in 1986. Some were sent to be signed by George and all or most of however many remained at the printers were damaged beyond saving but some accident (no guarentee but I seem to remember water damage from a leak, but wont swear to it).

Many of the survivors were sold off in blocks. A book dealer in Montana got many and was selling them on line in the early days of eBay. I got my copy from an RGS chapter in Ohio that some how got several for fund raising. I always thought it was funny that with all the love GBE had for art he had his copy thumb tacked, unframed to a door up stairs in Old Hemlock.