Winter Sunrise

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Since this is the first day of winter, and it has been snowing a bit, also the world has not come to an end yet, I took this photo this morning it ain't real good but every day I can see a sunrise I feel blessed! gary

[Jim DiSpagno]

Gary, you are truly blessed and may those blessings continue for a hundred years.

[Bill Davis]

Looks real good to me! Happy Holidays!!

[Paul Plager]

Looks great to me, looks alot like the sunrise I saw this morning. But mine didn't have any trees infront of it.:whistle:

[Dave Suponski]

Gary, Thanks for a great photo. For me a sunrise or sunset through the starkness of barren tree's is one of the most beautiful views mother nature offers.

[Richard Flanders]

Similar to here today. This is as much sun as I get this time of year, and for less than 30 minutes. Sure is nice and wintry though. Perfect for Christmas. And warm too at +1deg. It's been -40 for some time so this feels like a heat wave. This is one of the flying squirrels that come to my feeder nightly to sup on peanut butter. They are soo cool!

[charlie cleveland]

boy what a sunrise...looks like you gota lotta snow there..i see you still burning that wood you split a while back...nice little squirl i figured they would hibernate in that cold climite..bout every thing likes peanut butter including me.... charlie

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Rich, I see two buildings one is the main house is the other a work shop, No wonder you get so much wood in! I only burn 5-6 cords, but that is in a fireplace which sucks the heat out of the rest of the house, Do you have a pot belly stove, and do you burn more than a tractor trailer load each year? I see you get your wood in early up there! Merry Xmas Gary

[Richard Flanders]

The small log bldg is just a storage shed we built with the left over tips from the house logs. Big mistake because it's in the spot where I'd like to build a garage so I may have to move it. I only burn about 3 cords of wood per year; that pile on the pad will last me at least 2 yrs. I have a Riteway 2000 stove in the house, and a spare in the shed. Good old large box woodstove made in Minnesota many years ago. They were too efficient so were of course regulated out of existence.

[John Dallas]

Those are full cords, not face cords, I assume

[Richard Flanders]

Full; face cords is a pretty useless term really....

[charlie cleveland]

please explain phrase face cord...charlie

[John Dallas]

Charlie - Perhaps it's a Michigan thing. It's a stack of 16" or 18" firewood that is 4' high by 8' long

[Rick Losey]

a face cord is just that - the face of a cord of wood


4' tall 8' long and as deep as the guy selling to you wants to cut it - altough around 16 to 18 is about normal

same height and length - a lot less depth than a full cord

[charlie cleveland]

i guess in mississippi that a face cord wood be 2 foot by 16 foot.thats what i had to do when i was a boy cutting wood for people...you boys getting gipped or getting a good deal when selling....i like the idea of face cord if i ever go to selling wood again... charlie

[charlie cleveland]

shoulda said it was 2 wide by 4 foot high and 16 foot long...yep i like that term face cord.... charlie

[Richard Flanders]

Your measure makes up a 'full cord' of wood Charlie. 128 cubic feet of wood is a full cord no matter how the pile measures.

[Dean Romig]

A "face cord" here in New England is 1/3 of a cord and as Rich said, it is a pretty useless term when it comes to buying or selling firewood. I've never heard of anyone selling firewood by the face cord.

[John Dallas]

"Face cord" is the only way residential firewood is sold in Mich. Commercial amounts (a true cord) is referred to as a "Logger's cord"

[Dean Romig]

Wow... so if I burn 3 1/2 cords per heating season I would need to order 11 face cords if I lived in your neck of the woods.

Around here I simply order a "grapple load" which amounts to about 7 - 8 cords but they guarantee 7. That would last me two seasons.

[charlie cleveland]

im learning a lot of new terms here a grapple load and a face cord... charlie

[John Dallas]

I paid $60/face cord, delivered, for really good maple. What are prices in your area?

[Dean Romig]

$600 for a grapple load (tree lengths) or $240 for a cord cut to stove length and split.

[John Dallas]

Sounds like that works out to about $80/face cord. The cedar ticks here work cheaper than your supplier

[Richard Flanders]

If I actually got the 14cords that the logger said he had on the truck, I paid $125/cord for my load last spring.

[John Dallas]

Yeah, but isn't that Alaskan wood what we call "gofur wood"? (Put a piece on the fire and go for more) because it's poor firewood - low BTU content, high ash?

[charlie cleveland]

its about a 125 for a full cord of oak or hickory in my neck of the woods... charlie

[David Hamilton]

Hope those squirles are not alergic to peanut butter!! So many of our younger generation are paralized by these controled substances. David