View Full Version : Case For My 16 Ga. Hammer Gun
edgarspencer
12-05-2012, 08:48 AM
Every original Parker box I've looked at has been a total relic, so I decided to make my own. I took some liberties, but since I've never seen 2 alike, I figured there wasn't any rule to go by. I made 2 of these mahogany boxes 20+ years ago, but never finished them off on the inside. The corners are box jointed, but I've never seen box joints on an original. I stole the label image off the internet just to see what it would look like, but will buy one from CSMC when I can get over there. I can't see paying $10 for them to mail me one.
The lining cloth is billiard table material, Olive green. Maybe the Hoppes bottle and tin patch can aren't period correct, but they're cute and I liked them.
charlie cleveland
12-05-2012, 09:51 AM
i sure dont see nothing wrong with it..i really like it makes the gunstand out to me...you should be building these cases for all us parker boys...really great... charlie
Rick Losey
12-05-2012, 10:04 AM
nice work - that really looks sharp
Gary Carmichael Sr
12-05-2012, 10:08 AM
Edgar, I agree with Charlie, you need to start making some of those cases, bet you could sell a few right here, I sure would be in line! Gary
edgarspencer
12-05-2012, 11:18 AM
Thanks guys. I am moderately pleased with it, but may do another one, in walnut. I see things that I'd do differently, and would use this one as a learning experience. It's an old people thing I guess, but I'm more patient than I was when I was young and knew it all. I can work in metal to 5 tenths, but in the past in wood, The best I could do was +/- 1/4" , at best. My dad was a very qualified woodworker, strictly as a hobby. I have a lot of his old tools, but my most used woodworking tools are my chainsaws and a baseball bat.
Dave Suponski
12-05-2012, 12:01 PM
Edger, That case is fantastic. Very nice work. I'll take one for my hammergun. Please don,t be so modest I have seen things you've done in wood....:rolleyes:
Dennis V. Nix
12-05-2012, 12:18 PM
Edgar, I agree with the other posters. That is absolutely fantastic workmanship. I wish I had your talent instead of charm and incredible good looks. I am sure some of the PGCA people would love to purchase your cases. May I suggest you make a case for next years annual raffle gun. I bet it would add to the number of tickets sold.
George M. Purtill
12-05-2012, 02:39 PM
I wish I had your talent instead of charm and incredible good looks.
Are you hinting that Egger doesn't have charm and good looks?
Dennis V. Nix
12-05-2012, 02:43 PM
Nope. Only that I have the charm and good looks but wish I had his talent. Having never seen him nor anyone else on the PGCA forum I couldn't comment on anybody else's looks at all. Ha...
Dave Suponski
12-05-2012, 03:47 PM
I think I'll just shut up now...:whistle:
edgarspencer
12-05-2012, 03:54 PM
Dennis, I'm so ugly, when I want the dog to come in, I have to get my wife to call him.
Jim DiSpagno
12-05-2012, 06:04 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just espy Michelle O LOL
John Truitt
12-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Mr. Spencer,
Great case. That is just awesome. Next time we are at a shoot together ask to see the "box" I use. Some refer to it as a coffin.
Again truely a wonderful piece.
Rich Anderson
12-05-2012, 08:10 PM
Edgar that is a great case but an even greater hammergun! Where did you find such a beauty and in 16ga to boot:whistle:
I think Gunner's Parker would look outstanding in just such a case.
edgarspencer
12-05-2012, 08:13 PM
Edgar that is a great case but an even greater hammergun! Where did you find such a beauty and in 16ga to boot:whistle:
I think Gunner's Parker would look outstanding in just such a case.
I bought it off some old coot.:violin:
Dean Romig
12-05-2012, 09:30 PM
I bought it off some old coot.:violin:
Or "Cranky Ol' B...ah...uzzard" yeah, buzzard, that's it!:rotf:
Russ Jackson
12-06-2012, 08:44 AM
Hello Edgar ,Great looking Case and the Hammer gun is awesome ! Have you shot any of those B. P. Elys out of her yet ?:) How about putting me on the list for a 26", 410 Size case Oh and maybe one for the Drilling with Scope compartment etc. Oh Yeah 32" ,28" 25" ,man are you going to be busy ! :bigbye: Russ
Greg Baehman
12-06-2012, 09:17 AM
Edgar, that's a wonderful period-appropriate looking case that you've created. How is it carried, is there a handle?
Rick Losey
12-06-2012, 11:45 AM
Edgar, that's a wonderful period-appropriate looking case that you've created. How is it carried, is there a handle?
He has to carry it clutched to his chest so on one walks off with it.
chris dawe
12-06-2012, 12:54 PM
Beautiful job Mr.Spencer !!! like myself your are your own worst critique ... but there's nothing wrong with it it keep's us honest and help's us improve.
George M. Purtill
12-06-2012, 02:16 PM
I can't stand by and listen to this lovefest for Teggar's case any longer.
He told me the other day he was putting tongue oil on it. Now if thats not disgusting I dont know what is.
I am sure that is banned by PETA.
Also, did you notice how there are empty snap cap holes? Now where in the heck is he gonna get some 16 gauge vintage caps. Not at Ocean State Job Lot where he shops for tools.
And besides, if any vintage 16 gauge caps existed for sale , Angel would already have them.
Dave Suponski
12-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Not to worry George...I will make him some for his case and mine.....
John Farrell
12-06-2012, 03:45 PM
That's a really nice gun case and excellent fitting of the cloth covered dividers. The next one you build, think about doing a "toe under" model, which would allow about 1 1/2" of the width of the case to be narrowed. The toe fits under the muzzle end of the barrels with a flap of felt between the barrels and stock. See the attached photo.
Dave Suponski
12-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Okay John, Tell us about that Miller triggered C grade.:)
John Farrell
12-06-2012, 05:16 PM
Dave - that's a 236XXX VH 20 gauge with an English walnut restock done around 1980 and a Miller trigger as you identified it. The case is an Abercrombie and Fitch from the 1960 era with a long history of Nebraska sandhills bird shooting behind it. It was originally owned by C. G. "Bud" Pritchard of duck stamp fame. Since acquiring the gun and the case I've had a canvas overcase made for it along with the rest of my luggage cases.
Dave Suponski
12-06-2012, 05:23 PM
Wonderful gun John. Congratulations. The C style checkering and drop point threw me. I couldn't see any engraving but I thought that just might have been the picture.
edgarspencer
12-06-2012, 09:39 PM
No worries Dave, George is just upset because I bought a set of 16ga. G&H snap caps yesterday and had a set of A&F given to me today. John, I have W&C Scott cased toe under, but I don't think it's right for a hammer gun. That's a fairly common way the English guns were cased. I used to have oak & leather cases stacked up waiting for new tennants. The Reel Thing has piles of them but the days of paying a hundred pounds are long gone. Chris, I think I'd starve doing these for paying customers. I'm just too OCD.
Paul Plager
12-06-2012, 11:19 PM
Edgar, you might just starve if it takes you 20 years to finish them. Your turn around time needs to be improved a little.:rotf::whistle:
In all seriousness, nice work Edgar.:clap:
edgarspencer
12-07-2012, 07:30 AM
It was the nineteen years, fifty one week coffee break that chewed up all the profits
Paul Plager
12-07-2012, 10:10 AM
It was the nineteen years, fifty one week coffee break that chewed up all the profits:Edgarspencer
No wonder Starbucks has a store on evry corner.:shock:
John Dallas
12-07-2012, 12:51 PM
I'm presently working on a dozen cork - bodied Mallard decoys. It has taken me about 20 years to whittle the heads. Now I'll start on the bodies. They'll be brand new antiques by the time I finish them
Rick Losey
12-07-2012, 01:01 PM
I'm presently working on a dozen cork - bodied Mallard decoys. It has taken me about 20 years to whittle the heads. Now I'll start on the bodies. They'll be brand new antiques by the time I finish them
bandsaw man - get a bandsaw :cheers:
must be the year for it, I have pulled two old partly finished projects out of the closet in the past month. both ones I put away after making a mistake on them, I may not be any better a craftsman than I was when I goofed up on them, but I am more experienced at fixing mistakes now.
I just have to keep them moving with out stopping the rod I just started.
John Farrell
12-07-2012, 05:01 PM
For any Parker owners that think the toe under case is wisdomly (new word) purchased, Jeff's Outfitters in Cape Girardeau, MO (573-651-3200) has them in its catalog. I have several of their cases and never looked back once I purchased them. Don't get the JO overcase, however. They just don't do a nice fitting job, even on the JO products. I took my cases to a local made-in-the-garage re-upholsterer and had the overcases made from some canvas boat cover material he had lying around.
Larry Frey
12-07-2012, 10:05 PM
I may not be any better a craftsman than I was when I goofed up on them, but I am more experienced at fixing mistakes now.
Rick,
Thanks for the laugh.:rotf::rotf::rotf:
That has to be the quote of the year!
George M. Purtill
12-09-2012, 09:11 PM
And I have seen the case in person.
Yeahhhhhhh. Its really nice and he has all the damn do-dads to go with it.
But I liked his pair of 88 Land Rovers he just got even better.
Steve McCarty
12-14-2012, 05:46 PM
Great work! I'll never try to build a case. I see some for sale for something like $2 to $300 bucks and If I wanted a new one that's what I'd buy. Trouble is if I case all of my shotguns I won't be able to cram them into the safes. So I only need one case. I take the gun from the safe, break it down and put it into an old green canvas case and it's off to the trap range.
Matt Valinsky
12-19-2012, 11:03 PM
Now wait a minute, I read this thread twice to make sure. There was no mention that Edgars' gun was a 16ga. until C.O.B.'s post. So i said to myself, Self what's the deal here?
So, after much pondering (about 2 minutes), I came up with this. Either:
1. C.O.B. sold the gun to Edgar so he would know and that would make him the old Buzzard, or
2. You guys have every Parker ever made memorized and from 5 miles away can recognize the gun. Can give the grade, date of manufacture, gage, condition and a chronological list of every owner of a particular gun.
Am I close with either one?
By the way Edgar, that is a nice case.
Just having some fun guy's.
Greg Baehman
12-19-2012, 11:43 PM
Matt, what's the title of this thread?
Russ Jackson
12-19-2012, 11:47 PM
Matt, what's the title of this thread?
:rotf::rotf::rotf:
Paul Plager
12-19-2012, 11:55 PM
Matt, I think the only part of the post you missed was the title,
"Case for my 16 ga. Hammer gun"
Second, I also think you are correct about some of these guys knowing every Parker in existance, on the east coast anyway.:rotf:
You and I are the newbies in this world of Parkers, the knowledge that I have witnessed on this site sometimes scares me. We have contracted the disease of Parkers. There is no known cure. You can only subdue the symptoms by the ocasional sighting and purchase of more Parkers. I have come to the conclusion that the hunt for the next Parker is as much fun as actualy hunting with parkers.
Sit back, read, learn and enjoy the ride.:bigbye:
Matt Valinsky
12-20-2012, 12:31 AM
Well, I read the thread twice, guess I should have read the title once. In my own defense however, my Daddy always said I was never the brightest light on the tree!
My #2 above was an offhanded attempt to compliment the wealth of knowledge that the folks on this site display. Truely amazing, my hat is off to you all. Thank you for sharing.
Paul, your right about the disease of Parkers, what else would cause a guy to read this site till 3 in the morning the last couple nights?
Never the less, it's still one heck of a nice gun case.
edgarspencer
12-20-2012, 03:13 AM
Matt, Your correct on part a of Number 1, and show wisdom beyond your years on part b of number 1.
Number 2, Not so much.
edgarspencer
02-06-2013, 12:59 PM
I had a very talented young lady who has done boat canvas for me, make an outer case for the mahogany box. It's zippered, with integral handles and she did a superb job. If anyone is interested in having one made for their very classy A&F leather case, or others, get a hold of me and I'll put you in touch with her. I gave her what she asked, $120, but honestly feel it's worth more than that.
George M. Purtill
02-06-2013, 01:12 PM
Very nice.
allen newell
02-06-2013, 01:22 PM
Really nice Edgar. How do you keep it clean though? (George will say you never take it out of the house..)
edgarspencer
02-06-2013, 01:37 PM
So should I have her make me an outer outer cover? Trust me, that guns goes out alot.
allen newell
02-06-2013, 01:40 PM
Edgar, I think she did a terrific job and it will serve you well to protect your fine craftsmanship underneath. The color isn't a problem - that's why they invented soap and bleach.
All the best
A
edgarspencer
02-06-2013, 01:42 PM
She has all sorts of canvas colors available to her.
Dave Suponski
02-06-2013, 05:06 PM
Very Very nice Egger.
Matt Valinsky
02-06-2013, 11:26 PM
Very nice. I can understand her fee, lot of work to put that together.
Paul Plager
02-06-2013, 11:30 PM
Nicely done. It looks to me like a very good value for the money.
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