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charlie cleveland
12-02-2012, 03:53 PM
my question is about parker brothers 8 ga shells in paper..did they make in paper hull shells in 8 ga with the parker logo on it... 2nd question did parker make any brass hulls in 8 ga with parker logo... charlie
George M. Purtill
12-02-2012, 04:51 PM
I have never seen any Parker paper or brass 8 gauge
Dave Suponski
12-02-2012, 09:07 PM
Me neither Charlie.
Gary Carmichael Sr
12-02-2012, 09:26 PM
Charlie, I have looked at gunshows all across the country, for them never seen them. I would not say they did not make them since they made several 8 ga guns in all grades. If you found one it would be the holy grail of shell collectors! Gary
Kevin McCormack
12-02-2012, 09:55 PM
At the Easton, MD Waterfowl Festival Decoy Swap & Sell meet in early Nov. of this year, a major shotshell collector/dealer showed a sealed 2-pc. box of 8 ga. Arrow #5 shot, I believe they were 3 1/4 inch, 4 1/2 dram loads. Asking price was $425, said he would take $400 for them. The original paper seal on the box had been opened, but all 25 shells were correct to the label. The box was wrapped and sealed with heavy cellophane, guaranteed to be right. First intact box of 8 ga. shells correct to the label I have seen in many years.
Bill Zachow
12-03-2012, 06:52 AM
Kevin, I have a unopened box of Remington Arrow 8s; 5 1/2 drams, 1 3/4 ounces of No. 6 chilled shot. The shells came with my 36" PH. Kind of a near "throw in".
Bill Murphy
12-03-2012, 07:54 AM
Two sealed boxes of Arrow eights came in the trunk case of my bar in wood Westley Richards. I bought that gun about 1971 from the Sportsman in Bethesda, Maryland. The price was $635.00. Minty eight bores were not so collectable back then. I advertised the shells for sale in the Shotgun News for $250 a box and accepted $450 for the two boxes from a midwest collector. I have no idea why I thought they were worth so much, because I knew nothing of shell values.
Dave Noreen
12-03-2012, 01:10 PM
A very late, 1920s, Remington Arms Co., Inc., empty Arrow 8-gauge two-piece box went for $130 in the just completed Wards Auction.
https://www.wardscollectibles.com/viewitem.php?item=1157
Which ammo companies provided 8-gauge shells? I've seen mostly UMC or Rem-UMC and a handful of Winchesters. Never a Peters or a Western.
A brass Parker 10A went for $32 and a Brass Parker 12A went for $17.
charlie cleveland
12-03-2012, 03:52 PM
i also have a nice box of the 8 ga remington arrow shells...think my wife gave 450 for the box a few years ago for my christmas present...and have several odd brands of 8 ga shells but ive never seen a parker brothers paper 8 ga shell or a brass parker brothers 8 ga...would love to see one if they made them... charlie
Gary Carmichael Sr
12-04-2012, 07:33 PM
Same here Charlie!
George M. Purtill
12-04-2012, 08:03 PM
Which ammo companies provided 8-gauge shells? I've seen mostly UMC or Rem-UMC and a handful of Winchesters. Never a Peters or a Western.
My 8 bore WC Scott was used by WRA to test 8 guage shells. It is stamped 3 1/2 " on the side of the left barrel and I have a test card that shows they used it on a test round of Normal powder [a British powder] using a Leader shell which was a paper shell. WRA made a LOT of 8 bore shells- brass and paper.
charlie cleveland
12-04-2012, 09:17 PM
yep wra made a lot of 8 ga paper and brass...thats funny that they used your gun to test there shells out i think this is very neat...reckon why they did nt use a american made 8 ga..boy if your old gun could talk.... charlie
George M. Purtill
12-04-2012, 09:26 PM
My Scott was built around 1876 and I honestly don't know when Parker started building 8 gauges. I bet you do Charlie.
They used a lot of guns to test cartridges. They often were marked. Mine has WRA engraved on the rib.
I have an upcoming article in PP about Parkers they bought and used to test shells. Sometimes blowing them up on purpose. I have serial numbers of those Parkers as well.
George M. Purtill
12-04-2012, 09:27 PM
They used a Scott 24 gauge as well.
Gary Carmichael Sr
12-08-2012, 04:48 PM
Charlie this is for you, got to thinking about your interest in 8 gauges and decided to pull the old 8 out and take some photo's it is a 5 frame, with 34" twist barrels, P grade. The shells , well they speak for themselves! enjoy! my photo's did not come out good I apologize for that. Gary
George M. Purtill
12-08-2012, 05:08 PM
What a great combination Gary.
Dave Suponski
12-08-2012, 05:25 PM
Gary, That gun is stunning! Congratulations.
Thomas L. Benson Sr.
12-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Gary: That set up would be my dream gun.Very nice.. Thomas
charlie cleveland
12-08-2012, 07:37 PM
gary i really appreciate this...i truly have anunusal high interest in these old big bore guns..you sure do have a nice gun there its the first 5 frame ive seen listed.what does she weigh...and thats a nice box of shells..in all the full boxes of 8 ga shells ive seen those remington arrows have been it...i should have said the ones ive seen for sale and i could probably count them on my two hands...i have seen some game bore and ely s but im talking about american loaded shells...i have several different brands of loaded shells but ive only picked them up one at a time...gary you really have a nice gun there do you ever shoot it...and thanks again.... charlie
Bill Murphy
12-09-2012, 10:52 AM
I have seen lifter #5 frame eights, but that is the first top lever #5 frame eight I've seen.
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