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Bill Hulbert
11-16-2009, 02:08 PM
I originally posted here several months ago...then my camera went down. Bought a new one.....then life happened. Finally got some shots of the Parker CHE. I got a letter of authentication in June from Mark Conrad.

Ordered June 1, 1904 and shipped to Seattle Hardware Co. Sept. 6 ,1904. It is a CHE hammerless 12 ga.. 30in. Titanic steel barrels w/Lyman sight. Capped pistol grip w/Silvers pad. Original price was $150 + $25 for ejectors, $4 for the Silvers pad and $1 for the Lyman sight.

All of the pieces, barrels, forend, receiver (whatever its called) have matching serial numbers. The stock has been chopped and channeled unfortunately. I apologize for the poor pics but I am one of the 3 or 4 worst photographers in the world.

Larry Frey
11-16-2009, 02:50 PM
Mr. Hulbert,
It’s hard to tell too much from the pic's but it looks like a very nice C grade. Did your letter state the LOP and what is the current LOP? If it were me I would remove all that stuff on the back of the stock and put a replacement Silvers pad on. If the LOP were still a little short you could use a slip on pad to make up the difference when your shooting. If you would please post a pic of the floor plate engraving as it can sometimes be unusual on C grades and above.

Bill Hulbert
11-16-2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks. The LOP is 15" w/ a 3" drop at the heel (whatever all that means?). What is and where can I find the "floor plate". I would be happy to post other pics. I'm a hunter not a gun guy I guess. This gun was purchased new by my great-grandfather, passed on to my grandfather and then on to me.

Angel Cruz
11-16-2009, 04:49 PM
B
The floor plate is the space in front of the trigger guard with the two screws next to each other. It should have some nice engraving there. Welcome and enjoy your Parker.

Bill Hulbert
11-16-2009, 09:52 PM
A pic of the floor plate

Pat Dugan
11-17-2009, 03:35 PM
Please take some more of the floor plate, put you new camera setting on micro and we can see better. Maybe use another light source rather than flash

PDD

Bill Hulbert
11-17-2009, 03:54 PM
Like I said, I'm not a photographer. Here's another try at it.

Pat Dugan
11-17-2009, 04:44 PM
that looks 1000 times better

thanks

PDD

Dave Purnell
11-17-2009, 07:25 PM
If you're are one of the 3 or 4 worst photographers in the world, then I gotta be in the top two!

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 06:09 AM
Interesting . . . a grade 4 Parker has five birds on the floorplate - a grade 3 has four birds on the floorplate - but a grade 2 has two birds. For such a rigid engraving motif, e.g., the number of birds for the particular grade you would think there would be some clue as to why - but I don't understand it.

Rich Anderson
11-18-2009, 08:16 AM
Dean there are forces in the universe that we arn't meant to understand and the number of birds engraved per grade is just one of those things we are left to ponder for eternity. At least we can ponder these things with some Old #7.

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 08:51 AM
I think I'll pour a small one this evening and ponder why there was never a graded Parker that had a three-bird designation for the floorplate. I'm guessing this will take some considerable pondering and maybe a second glass of 'ponderin' fluid'.

Dave Fuller
11-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Perhaps they reserved the three bird motif for the D-grade repros which have three pheasants on the floor plate.

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 11:05 AM
They must have had incredible foresight to know that in about 100 years someone would conceive of a Reproduction of the late Remington issue of Parker hammerless shotguns. :shock:

Bill Hulbert
11-18-2009, 11:15 AM
Not to put too fine a point on it but.....this C grade has 5 birds.

Dave Fuller
11-18-2009, 11:49 AM
Yep, 5 birds on the C. 4 on the original D and 3 on the repro D

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 12:38 PM
My point exactly. One would expect that a grade 2 (G) would have two birds - and it does, and we might surmise that a grade 3 (D) would have three birds, a grade 4 (C) would have four birds, a grade 5 (B) would have five birds . . . but such is not the case -so we are left wondering what was the criteria that determined the number of birds engraved on the floorplates of the graded hammerless Parkers.

Lee St.Clair
11-18-2009, 12:42 PM
So Mr. Romig, how much 'ponder juice' til we get an answer?

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 12:48 PM
To be announced . . . after the ponderin' is done.

Lee St.Clair
11-18-2009, 12:49 PM
I see sir.....but will we be able to understand what you type? smiles.

Fred Preston
11-18-2009, 05:04 PM
Winged Turnips on the G; no great evelotionary advance from there.

C Roger Giles
11-18-2009, 05:06 PM
Fred is the dog in your Parker ID Old Ringo or New Ringo?

Roger,presently enjoying Famour Grouse

Fred Preston
11-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Roger, That's the old (13 and counting) Ringo. He's still in the game, slow like me, near blind in the right eye (cataraced), hearing gone (except when he wants to hear). The bird finding nose and wisdom is there and we've been getting out 2 or 3 times a week this season. The new guy, Pete, is coming on well with several finds so far both here and in the MI coverts; needs a little steadying on the point, if the critter moves, he's going to take it.

Dean Romig
11-18-2009, 11:48 PM
I see sir.....but will we be able to understand what you type? smiles.

Indeed you will, as I highly ascribe to the expression "moderation is for monks" I do tend to go easy on the libations knowing my limits better these days than I thought I did in a not-so-distant past :rolleyes: