Help needed

[Chuck Bishop]

For you Parker experts out there.

I'm trying to identify the type of recoil pad used on early Parker SBT's in the 177xxx serial number range. I can't make out the first word other than it definately starts with a P. It's not Silvers or Hawkins (I don't believe). One of the guns I'm doing a letter on and in talking to the guy, it's either a leather covered or leather faced recoil pad. Don't know if it's original.

Attached are 3 examples, all SBT's on the same page in the order book.

[Brian Dudley]

Oh the joys of trying to decipher old writing. I got a real kick out of seeing the writing in the order books on display at Remington.

[Dean Romig]

Have you asked Mark

[wayne goerres]

looks like it reads pures pad.

[Dean Romig]

Prem for Premium or Premiere...?

[George M. Purtill]

Prem for Premium or Premiere...?

What he said..

[Bill Murphy]

Will Dave Noreen know? He is the king of recoil pad research.

[Chuck Bishop]

No reply from Dave yet. I haven't asked Mark yet.

[Drew Hause]

c. 1920s pads included the Silvers, Funkes, the American Silver pad (sometimes called Grieb) and the Jostam Anti-Flinch, Hy-Gun and the Huntley Sponge Rubber Pad (which Jostam acquired after WW I).
The Hawkins Model 25 Recoil Pad by the Cushion Pad Co. was first offered about 1920. The NOSHOC pads have a June 6, 1922 patent date, but were not found in catalogs until the early 1930s.

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22972603

I am not aware of any pad called the 'Premium' or 'Premier', but have seen a number of Fox SBTs with original leather faced Jostam pads.

[Mike Shepherd]

"Pwu" or "Puw" ?

[Chuck Bishop]

Isn't this fun:banghead:

[Steve Huffman]

Could it be a Orvis pad ??

[Chuck Bishop]

Thanks for everyone's reply.

I've talked to Bill Murphy, Dave Noreen, and Mark Conrad. Bill and Dave aren't sure what it is. Mark believes the word is the abbreviation for Premium. When Parker handwrote their entries, they (multiple people entered into the Order Books) they wrote in the old style script and with a fountain pen. Their lower case r's were the old style. When they wrote the letter e at the end of a word, the e looked like a capitol letter E but written in lower case. Since the e as in Prem would be in the middle of the work, I think they used the regular e. In this case, they just didn't make the loop big enough. It's all speculation.

If anyone has a SBT in the 177xxx S/N range and believes the pad is original (slim chance) contact me with pictures. That's assuming it's not one of the well known pads.