View Full Version : Herzog's Shooting Prowess
Bruce Day
09-21-2012, 03:41 PM
We have heard much about how this or that person gets a double on quail, grouse or what have you, a double being two birds in the air dead with two shots.
A doubles pin for Charlie!
Well I want you fellows to know you don't hold a candle to my buddy Charlie Herzog. He does two with ONE SHOT! Dead in the air!
Mike Shepherd
09-21-2012, 03:58 PM
Obviously a squirrelly shot.
Rich Anderson
09-21-2012, 05:00 PM
I don't think tree rats with a shotgun count:nono: Last weekend a friend with his new Parker VHE 16 got two Grouse on the wing with one shot! Now thats a double.
Charlie should know that the appropriate weapon for Squirrel is an accurate .22:bowdown: :rotf:
Jeff Christie
09-21-2012, 05:22 PM
Isn't 2 birds w/ 1 shot called a 'Scotch' double I assume either as obviously whisky induced or more likely, and safely, some one was too cheap (i.e. Scot) to want to shoot twice?
I know in the grouse crowd a true double requires a pair in the air (simultaneous or nearly so flush) killed with 2 seperate shots. They are a snooty bunch in the coverts. Probably only drink single malt- none of that plebeian blended stuff.
Any any rate I join in a hearty congrats!!
Rich Anderson
09-21-2012, 05:35 PM
I don't know about a Scotch double but the night befor Jack Daniels stock shot up as we toasted our canine friends that had left us. If I wasn't there I'd never believe it. A covey of young birds flushed and two dogs each returned with a bird.
Bill Murphy
09-21-2012, 05:50 PM
After hearing that two birds with one shot qualifies for the "Doubles" board, the board takes on a new quality in my mind. It's a fun thing, I hope.
Mike Shepherd
09-21-2012, 06:34 PM
Bruce what grade is Mr. Herzog's squirrel gun? A? AA? From the hull I assume he used a twenty. Do you know his preferred choke / shot size combination for shooting doubles on squirrels?
Bruce Day
09-21-2012, 06:37 PM
Its a Trojan A-1 Special. 20ga, I don't know what chokes or shot size, but its the same that works on cats.
Mike Shepherd
09-21-2012, 06:53 PM
Do you know if he uses his Setter when he hunts squirrels? Does the dog point them or tree them? Who trained his Setter to hunt squirrels? Did he retrieve them to hand?
I am surprised that he would use the same gun on cats and squirrels. It would seem to me that one would have one gun for hunting cats and one for squirrels. In Texas cats don't hold very well for pointing dogs so it would seem that a cat hunter would use a tightly choked twelve. Now I admit I never hunted cats but just speculating. Could you find out for me? Hunting cats could possibly be something we (me and the dogs) could do in the off-season. Neighborhood is overrun with them.
Gary Carmichael Sr
09-21-2012, 11:16 PM
Bruce, dare you talking about house cats, or bobcats and cougars
Fred Preston
09-22-2012, 04:53 AM
Did Charlie catch the poor things in the back yard trying to start a family?
Ed Blake
09-22-2012, 06:58 AM
Obviously flying squirrels.
Dean Romig
09-22-2012, 06:59 AM
I'm pretty sure Charlie caught them raiding his pecan plantation. He has told me about his squirrel problems before and I'm glad to see that he is finally reducing their numbers.
With squirrels it's not so much about how many you can kill as squirrels usually get the message pretty early about hunters and how quickly they ought to vacate the area where hunters are frequently seen.
Bill Murphy
09-22-2012, 08:27 AM
My Wirehair hunts squirrels the same way she hunts treed ringnecks. She barks them to death. Charlie's dogs probably do the same.
Rich Anderson
09-22-2012, 08:48 AM
I prefer a Walker or Redbone when hunting Mr. Kitty. I have been known to bait the local Pheasant murderer that was traveling past my house. As most shots are at treed Kitty Cats a .22 revolver works fine, when sniping at longer ranges I prfer larger calibre's such as a 270 or 300H&H. Its a humanity issue for me:whistle:
Richard Flanders
09-22-2012, 11:14 AM
Show no mercy Rich... none....and always use hollow points in the .300...
Eric Eis
09-22-2012, 11:42 AM
Them "cats" can be hard to bring down.......
Dave Noreen
09-22-2012, 08:29 PM
Taken in December 1967 with a 12-gauge #6 Nitro Express in an 1899-vintage DH-Grade Parker Bros. with Italian steel barrels.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Ansleyone/Antoinette.jpg
Still in the market for the original barrels for #88224.
Dean Romig
09-22-2012, 08:43 PM
Nice cat Dave. What did you take the bunny with?
Bruce Day
09-22-2012, 09:03 PM
Good God. He's killed Flopsy.
Rich Anderson
09-22-2012, 09:30 PM
In my college days my go to cat gun was an Iver Johnson 20ga with the barrel cut to 18 1/8th inches. It was a great sniping weapon from the window of the truck:eek::whistle:
Rich I much prefer the Nosler Ballistic Tip over a HP esp from my 25 WSSM. It will splat the cat:rotf:
Bill Bolyard
09-22-2012, 10:34 PM
There you go again Bruce, we both know Charley does not hunt tree rats with a Parker. Go ahead and post the gun he prefers, you know the one I am talking about, it has wheels and shoots canister shot.:)
Bill
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