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Jim Bennett
08-30-2012, 01:45 PM
How rare is an 11 gauge Parker?
I didn't even know of an 11 gauge until I was reading the newest Parker letter.
I bought a GH 12; 2 frame ;32 inch Damascus with a gorgeous butt stock and the shiny bores this last weekend. I tried a 12 gauge shell and it seemed sloppy. A 10 gauge wouldn't fit. I jokingly said it must be an 11 gauge not even knowing they existed. My Galazan choke gauge showed the chokes as cyl and I/cyl which seemed kinda odd for such a configuration.
Bruce Day
08-30-2012, 01:52 PM
There are many 12 ga guns with wallowed out chambers and bores that people think are 11 ga guns. There is a Serialization Book and a research letter service that can be used to find original factory configuration.
TPS lists 11 ga guns.
A cylinder and improved cylinder choke set commonly results from a 2 inch bob at the muzzles, as full and fuller were the most normal chokes. The chokes also could have been reamed out. It is least uncommon that they came from the factory that way.
David Holes
08-30-2012, 02:01 PM
I am asuming the letter you are refering to is a Parker letter. If it says an 11 guage , well its probably an 11 guage. Congrats on your good luck. Please tell us more about the gun. Thanks Dave
Gary Carmichael Sr
08-30-2012, 02:07 PM
Bruce, A interesting tidbit, they actually made more 11g a guns than they did 14g a According to TPS 161 11g a guns and 131 14g a guns pg 1004, The holy grail of gauges is the illusive 13ga, best I can tell 4-5 made. I know there are 24ga guns and a talked about 18g a that some have seen but these are hammerless guns. Only interest at this time Hammer guns, they sort of rule in my book just my opinion, like other things everybody has one. Gary
David Holes
08-30-2012, 02:25 PM
Gary, go to back of book and add up the 11 ga. vs. 14 ga. Leaves some questions. Dave
Bruce Day
08-30-2012, 02:31 PM
In 2009 at the Peasant Fest we had Parkers in 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 20, 28 and 410. I've seen your 11ga Gary, a wonderful gun. I've heard about the 18 ga and seen pictures only of the 24 ga. I'll keep my eye out for anything that might interest you. People are holding on to most good guns right now as a safe money vehicle but there are those collections from seniors that could be reducing.
Bill Murphy
08-30-2012, 02:34 PM
Where are those 24s today? Bruce needs one to add to the display he mentions.
Jim Bennett
08-30-2012, 02:36 PM
You guys just carry on amongst yourselves.
Jim..................:banghead:
Gary Carmichael Sr
08-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Bill, I really do not know where the 24ga guns are now, Bruce might know? and Jim your right I am getting so damn old an feeble all I can do is carry on! Gary
charlie cleveland
08-30-2012, 03:05 PM
it would be nice to see all these gauges together... charlie
Bruce Day
08-30-2012, 03:41 PM
Jim, just look up the SN or get a letter. That will tell you if it is an 11. And the number of 11's, as Gary mentioned, is in TPS.
Bill Murphy
08-31-2012, 12:32 PM
The first I saw the US Cartridge Company 24 gauge was in the late sixties or early seventies when it was in the estate of my fellow gun club member Bob Hess. It was a well whitened gun accompanied by a wood case of Remington 24 gauge shells and a couple of Bob's other Parkers, one of which, his 20 gauge skeet gun, is in my collection today. The next time I saw the gun was at a very early PGCA show where it wore a hideous recase color dress. I may be exaggerating about the condition of the gun, but it looked terrible to me. I hope it has been re restored since.
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